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Let's blame ourselves for the ethanol mandate
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | April 26, 2002 | Joseph Perkins

Posted on 04/26/2002 4:23:07 AM PDT by buzzyboop

Talk about chickens coming home to roost.

The Senate this week bestowed its blessing upon a proposal, by Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, to triple the amount of corn-based ethanol added to gasoline.

Daschle, the South Dakota Democrat, argued that the new federal mandate would yield cleaner-burning fuel, reducing smog above the nation's skylines, while also curbing America's reliance on foreign oil.

But the new ethanol requirement almost certainly will mean higher pump prices for motorists on the West and East coasts. Ninety-eight percent of the nation's ethanol plants are located in Corn Belt states – like South Dakota. That means ethanol will have to be transported by rail to the two coasts, at no small expense. That does not set well with lawmakers representing the nation's two most populous states.

"Unconscionable, selfish and parochial," is how California Sen. Dianne Feinstein described the ethanol mandate. It will "hurt consumers dramatically," said New York Sen. Charles Schumer.

Yet, New York and California lawmakers have only themselves to blame for having a new ethanol mandate forced upon their states. For they allowed themselves to be duped by the environmental left, blithely going along with a ban on the gasoline additive methyl tertiary ether (MTBE), which is as clean-burning as ethanol, but far more economical.

Like ethanol, MTBE is an "oxygenate." And motor vehicles fueled by oxygenated gas emit less smog-producing compounds from their tailpipes than those fueled by non-oxygenated gas.

Which is why a 1990 amendment to the federal Clean Air Act required oxygenated gas to be used in the nation's most smog-ridden cities, including Los Angeles and San Diego.

Since 1995, when California service stations began selling gasoline reformulated with MTBE, the oxygenate is credited with reducing carbon monoxide pollution by roughly 10 percent in Southern California.

Yet the enviros were not happy. Not because they didn't welcome cleaner air. But because they never met a chemical they could bring themselves to like. Because they believe, as an article of faith, that the chemical industry is inherently evil.

So the enviros manufactured an MTBE scare. They claimed that the chemical caused cancer. They warned MTBE was leeching into the underground water supply of any number of municipalities, endangering the health of unsuspecting residents.

And lawmakers in California and New York, among other states, bit. In 1999, California Gov. Gray Davis issued an executive order to ban MTBE by December of this year. And, in 2000, New York Gov. George Pataki followed suit, signing a law banning the chemical beginning in 2004.

As it turns out, the decisions made by the two governors were based on unsound science. Indeed, the California Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment commissioned a scientific panel to study MTBE. It concluded that there was no evidence the chemical posed a cancer threat to human beings.

As to the matter of MTBE leeching into municipal water supplies, that had nothing to do with the chemical's properties. It was entirely attributable to the failure of oil companies to keep their underground storage facilities properly maintained. In fact, when those underground tanks leak, the biggest danger to the water supply, the biggest threat to health, is not MTBE. It is benzene and toluene, two chemicals found in gasoline that are indisputably cancer-causing.

So now California and New York can look forward to replacing MTBE, which is much cheaper, much easier to produce and transport than ethanol. And motorists in the Golden State, in the Empire State, can look forward to ethanol supply shortages and gasoline price spikes.

The most perverse aspect of the ethanol mandate is that it's supposed to help family farmers in the Corn Belt. But the reality is that the biggest beneficiaries will be a cartel of ethanol producers. In fact, eight companies control 71 percent of the ethanol market, according to the General Accounting Office. And one company, Archer Daniels Midland, controls 41 percent by itself.

Sen. Feinstein correctly characterized the ethanol mandate as "a wealth transfer of billions of dollars" from states like California and New York "to a handful of ethanol producers."

Too bad lawmakers in those states didn't see that coming when they blithely went along with the politically motivated, unscientific crusade to ban MTBE.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: daschle; environment; ethanol; gasoline
ADM is one of Daschle's biggest supporters, as if we didn't know.. But when you have Democrats sniping at each other, it's a good thing..
1 posted on 04/26/2002 4:23:07 AM PDT by buzzyboop
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To: buzzyboop
So Daschle supports ADM. He never supported the United States.

He is the traitor to the US's vital interests.

2 posted on 04/26/2002 4:29:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: buzzyboop
LOL! Tom Daschle is in the pocket of "Big Corn".
3 posted on 04/26/2002 4:30:59 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: PogySailor
Hell, ADM is "big chemical", as well as "big polluter". Someone should tell the envirowackos about this - tiny Tom won't be so popular with them.
4 posted on 04/26/2002 4:37:22 AM PDT by 11B3
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To: buzzyboop
The point most Californians have missed: Ethanol can be produced from any crop containing sugar. When you think of all the fruits (no pun intended) grown in CA, it is entirely possible they could manufacture their own Ethanol from bruised and damaged fruit. Thinking: Peaches, Apricots, Stawberries, yams, other potatoes,,,, there must be others.

buzzyboop, could you site a reference indicating that MTBE is not a carcinagen? I am not aware of that research.

Gotta agree, it's great to see the Dems snipping at each other. Love it!

5 posted on 04/26/2002 4:40:54 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: buzzyboop
But the reality is that the biggest beneficiaries will be a cartel of ethanol producers.

This is just another way of extorting money from consumers to benefit ADM and a few Congressmen. If the ethanol were any good for your vehicle, I might feel different. It turns into corn syrup if left in your vehicle undisturbed for any length of time. (My two motorcycle owner's manuals warn against its use.)

Sen. Feinstein correctly characterized the ethanol mandate as "a wealth transfer of billions of dollars" from states like California and New York "to a handful of ethanol producers."

Feinstein is RIGHT! Wait, that doesn't sound correct for some reason.

6 posted on 04/26/2002 4:41:02 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: buzzyboop
While its good to see democraps sniping at each other, its also loaded with metablolic by-products of male bovines.

The writers "facts" about MTBE are entirely wrong. Also, its not oxygenates that are causing air to be cleaner, its the cleaner burning gasoline formulas introduced fifteen years ago, combined with cars that have cleaner emissions that are doing the job. I believe that the study the writer mentions was commissioned by the CA state legislature after they suppressed a previous study by U Cal Davis that found the opposite.

The air quality in major metro areas has been improving steadily for the past thirty years in nearly every major city.

7 posted on 04/26/2002 4:48:28 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: buzzyboop
This is nothing new. When the EPA mandated cleaner burning fuel under Reagan, he promised the regulations would be "result oriented", meaning that the fuel producers could develop whatever additives they wanted, and use them as long as the target pollution reduction levels were met. When the final specs came out it was apparent we'd been lied to, and the fuel producers were going to be required to use ethanol in their products.
8 posted on 04/26/2002 5:00:45 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: JoeGar
Does Jim Beam turn into corn syrup if left too long in your stomach?
9 posted on 04/26/2002 5:08:48 AM PDT by hgro
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To: buzzyboop
"Unconscionable, selfish and parochial," is how California Sen. Dianne Feinstein described the ethanol mandate. It will "hurt consumers dramatically," said New York Sen. Charles Schumer.

Yeah, right. Like these two arseholes have never participated in enacting "Unconscionable, selfish and parochial" law.

10 posted on 04/26/2002 5:12:04 AM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: hgro
Does Jim Beam turn into corn syrup if left too long in your stomach?

The secret to solving that problem would be to drink lots and lots,,,,, sort of the "Keep it Moving" theory.

11 posted on 04/26/2002 5:13:44 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: buzzyboop
"Unconscionable, selfish and parochial,"

But environmental green-weenie laws that strangle American farmers, ranchers, and loggers are "broad-minded and visionary?" Just because California and New York are populous doesn't mean they can't be "provincial." And this is living proof that neither Feinswine nor Schemer give a tinker's damn about energy independence, domestic agriculture, or clean air.

12 posted on 04/26/2002 5:16:55 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: buzzyboop
Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) is one of the largest producers of ethanol, just like Land O'Lakes or Green Giant is one of the largest producers of canned foods, and Tyson is one of the largest producers of prepared foods and meat. These guys are the market makers, the terminal for grain growers and livestock producers. ADM is just opening up a whole new market for corn farmers. Yes, they're going to make a profit, but so are a lot of desperate farmers. Finally.
13 posted on 04/26/2002 5:21:05 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Iowa Granny
Granny, all the rotten and bruised fruit in CA is already spoken for. Not a strawberry in the San Joaquin Valley can go moldy without some buyer from Gallo getting excited. Rotten peaches, rotten apples, rotten plums, rotten pears, rotten apricots ... these are the raw materials for such exciting wine-like products as "Boones Farm,' 'Night Train,' all kinds of cheap muscatel, and of course those despicable 'wine cooler' products so eagerly consumed by eigth-graders everywhere.

Thanks to the Gallo Bros recycling of unsaleable fruit, the bums and winos of America are already, like Ted Kennedy, fueled by ethanol. Never forget, Granny, the last words of Julio Gallo:

"If worst comes to worst, our cheaper wine products can be made from cough...cough GRAPES!"

14 posted on 04/26/2002 5:23:04 AM PDT by Francohio
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To: Iowa Granny
could you site a reference indicating that MTBE is not a carcinagen?

I tracked down the report (at least I think its the one referred to in the article). I browsed through the executive summary and, in particular, section 3.7 which deals with the topic of human cancer and MTBE.

What it actually says is that there is "no human data on which the carcinogenicity of MTBE can be based". However, it goes on to point out that, based on studies with rats and mice, that "MTBE is an animal carcinogen with potential to cause cancer in humans."

The statement in the posted article was taken out of context and is not a true representation of what this study concluded.

15 posted on 04/26/2002 5:49:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: IronJack
Most of the new ethanol plants are owned by farmers.
16 posted on 04/26/2002 5:49:38 AM PDT by clodkicker
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To: Iowa Granny
Before they put MTBE in the gas they did at least 10years of research to determine what it's effects were. No carcinogenic property was found. It is toxic though, like methanol, or glycol.

More MTBE can be put into gas without the gas separating into 2 layers. Ethanol is extremely bad in this respect. 10% is max, and at that level when just a little water from the air gets in, it separates. That behavior causes me much grief. Ethanol is blended at distribution point holding tanks, or at the station. That practice minimizes the risk of large amounts of the stuff separating.

Pipeline cos that move large amounts of fuel don't allow ethanol blends in their lines, because of this problem. The greens want to force it. Last I knew, this legislation had such a mandate to force the pipeline cos. to carry ethanol blends. Having spent way too much time already cleaning up the stinking mess of separated gas I can imagine the problems those guys would have with several million gals of that mess to clean up.

17 posted on 04/26/2002 6:14:52 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: buzzyboop
I remember reading, some time ago, that given all the petroleum that is neede to produce, process, asnd ship corn, ethanol is a wasteful alternative to gasoline.

If I recall correctly, it was argued that you would get more fuel by directly processing the petroleum than you get by making ethanol.

If true, etahnol will make us MORE dependent on petroleum imports!

Does anyone else remember this? Can someone point me to the original study?

18 posted on 04/26/2002 6:21:40 AM PDT by DrNo
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To: buzzyboop
Oxygenated gas and catalytic converters are two technologies which, individually, can substantially reduce certain nasty emissions with minimal effect on fuel economy. Computer-controlled fuel mixing is another technology which can work well with either of the first two to reduce emissions while increasing fuel economy.

Combining the first two technologies, however, provides benefits that are little greater than using either alone, while imposing a larger fuel-economy hit than the sum of the two methods alone. In addition, using both of the earlier technologies togeher makes the computer-controlled fuel mix much less effective than it would be with either method alone.

19 posted on 04/26/2002 6:24:22 AM PDT by supercat
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To: JoeGar
"My two motorcycle owner's manuals warn against its use."

There's 2 reasons for that. One is that if it's humid and you leave the gas in the tank too long, the gas sucks up water and it separates into 2 layers. Then you have a mess to clean up. The other is that elastomers for gasketing are either hydrophilic, hydrophobic, or flouropolymer. Hydrophilic, like neoprene is used for gas and petrol products. Hydrophobic, like butyl rubber, is used for ethanol, or water types. Butyl sucks up gas and is broken up by it. Ethanol does the same thing to neoprene.

Flouropolymers are like teflon, they are inert, but more expensive. They work with all fuels fine, but car and bike makers don't tend to use them.

Ethanol blends are also more conductive, so corrosion of carb metering passages is more of a problem, as is plugging from corrosion products.

20 posted on 04/26/2002 6:26:40 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
Before they put MTBE in the gas they did at least 10years of research to determine what it's effects were.

Who are "they" and could you please cite a source for for this assertion?

21 posted on 04/26/2002 7:41:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: spunkets
... if it's humid and you leave the gas in the tank too long, the gas sucks up water and it separates into 2 layers. Then you have a mess to clean up. The other is that elastomers for gasketing are either hydrophilic, hydrophobic, or flouropolymer. Hydrophilic, like neoprene is used for gas and petrol products. Hydrophobic, like butyl rubber, is used for ethanol, or water types. Butyl sucks up gas and is broken up by it. Ethanol does the same thing to neoprene. Flouropolymers are like teflon, they are inert, but more expensive. They work with all fuels fine, but car and bike makers don't tend to use them. Ethanol blends are also more conductive, so corrosion of carb metering passages is more of a problem, as is plugging from corrosion products.

What great info! I knew the stuff was junk. Thanks for the explanation.

22 posted on 04/26/2002 7:44:38 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: DrNo
Petroleum wouldn't be used to produce ethanol, methane would. Burning ethanol gives 327kcalories/mole, methane gives 213kcal/mole. 99.x% ethanol is distilled off the mash at reduced pressure, ~1/8 atmosphere, at ~33oC. That doesn't take much energy. I don't have the time to do the calcs, but I suspect a slight E gain. Anyway, it's the economic cost that's important. Crude to fuel is cheap, corn to fuel is more expensive. Ethanol is ~$2/gal(w/o subsidies), gas is ~$1.5.
23 posted on 04/26/2002 7:47:44 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Fresh Wind
"Who are "they" and could you please cite a source for for this assertion?"

They are the '70's EPA, API(Am Petroleum Institute) and every major refiner. A google search should bring up what your looking for, I have to take off now.

24 posted on 04/26/2002 7:52:23 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: JoeGar
Yes, for small engines it's junk. For vehicles though, it can be dealt with by getting the engineering right.
25 posted on 04/26/2002 7:54:02 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: buzzyboop
So now California and New York can look forward to replacing MTBE, which is much cheaper, much easier to produce and transport than ethanol. And motorists in the Golden State, in the Empire State, can look forward to ethanol supply shortages and gasoline price spikes.

I'll bet that Schumer, Clinton, Boxer and Feinstein are now wishing they'd voted to open ANWR for drilling! No, wait, that would mean that they would have to give a rip about their constituents, wouldn't it?

Sorry, my bad.

26 posted on 04/26/2002 7:59:42 AM PDT by Warhammer
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To: buzzyboop
It feels like rape, and it smells like crap,-- I'm not going to blame myself for the ethanol mandate.
27 posted on 04/26/2002 10:31:54 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: spunkets
I think the issue was the petroleum that went into the production of the fertilizer to produce corn.

I recall a quote that went something like; "American farmers grow crops in petroleum (i.e., fertilizer) not soil."

Obviously, I'm no expert!

28 posted on 04/26/2002 10:56:21 AM PDT by DrNo
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To: DrNo
I'll get some numbers for diesel/acre, acres/bushel, the energy to produce the fertilizer, ethanol/bushel...and get back sometime next week.
29 posted on 04/26/2002 12:16:52 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: clodkicker
I don't think small producers are going to be able to survive against giants like ADM. The economies of scale just aren't there. But as long as ADM gives growers a fair shake, the market will get a badly needed boost and producers won't have to invest in the infrastructure.

On the other hand, it's encouraging to see the independent spirit alive and well in America. But that's never been missing in the Heartland.

30 posted on 04/26/2002 4:27:28 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: spunkets
Armored Army Vehicles.

Tanks!!

31 posted on 04/26/2002 4:53:32 PM PDT by DrNo
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To: buzzyboop
MTBE is bad stuff and passes rapidly through soil into drinking water. Check out

http://www.uhuh.com/reports/headsup/hu147.htm

"MORE HARM BY THE EPA"

32 posted on 04/27/2002 3:32:13 PM PDT by forest
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To: DrNo
The fuel costs for the tractor are only a few %.
33 posted on 05/22/2002 1:03:27 PM PDT by spunkets
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