Archaeological Cover-ups -- A Plot to Control History?

Extracted from Nexus Magazine ^ | April-May 2002 | Will Hart

[Lancey Howard]

Awesome post.
Man, I eat this stuff up. Bookmarked.

[Lancey Howard]

You keep coming up with those theories and somebody is going to send SerraA or ShivanD after you. :D

[KC_Conspirator]

One thing that always gets me is the outright fraud and deception that occurs in archealogy because of "ethnocentrism". When one group gets victimology status any time there is just too much invested in it to even allow decent discussion. One recent episode was where Kennewick man was discovered and the remains were pretty much whisked away so that no more scientific study could be done.

[SalukiLawyer]

Fascinating. I admit to enjoying reading books like West's "Serpent in the Sky" and wilder ones that marshal evidence for world-mapping empires that existed long before what we now consider the oldest civilizations. Some of it is actually pretty compelling; a lot of it looks like a stretch. It does perk my ears up when someone like Zawi Hawais utterly condemns the least and most tentative challenge to orthodoxy, though. I mean, just take Egypt as an example. Still quite a few unanswered questions, I think. I can understand how the modern Egyptians take a lot of pride in the accomplishments of the completely unrelated civilization that flourished along the Nile. Egypt used to be an important place :-)

[justshutupandtakeit]

That half-assed attempt wasn't using 70 ton stones and fitting them to a degree of accuracy which we do not match to this day on stones of this size.

In fact, watching that program firmly convinced me that they don't have a clue as to how something like the Cheops Pyramid was really built. It was kinda like watching a Clinton defender try and refute the facts of his criminality adopting the most outrageous twists to deny the obvious.

Saying that does not mean I believe it was built by aliens.

The Olmec heads are clearly negroid.

[Centurion2000]

bump

[ASA Vet]

Well, Peace, you suckered me for awhile into believing it was a science thread, not just another rant.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

[Axenolith]

Later in the essay he shows his true colors. Bozo is a creationist.

Really? If he was truly a creationist I'd think he wouldn't wander down the heretical pathway of an earth greater than 6K years old...

Evolution may be widely accepted, but the MECHANISMS and RATES (i.e. Punctuated Equilibrium or Gradualism) are open to debate in most circles.

Alfred Wegner was ridiculed for proposing that the continents shifted over the surface of the globe. He wasn't vindicated until his peers were dragged kicking and screaming into the era of sea floor spreading\plate tectonics by the submarine magnetic surveys conducted on the floor of the Atlantic during WWII.

Just because it doesn't toe the party line is hardly reason for Ad Hominem...

[ruoflaw]

Maybe you are right! ;^)...however, I have seen archaeologists that work for a state museum...attempt to ruin another archaeologist because he did not march to the beat of their drum. I have read about other scientists trying to ruin eachother because each had his own opinion in archaeology and paleontology...for instance, look at the dinosaur/bird theory...they have been fighting over it for years.

[headsonpikes]

RE: 'sand to gold machines or perpetual motion'.

You're just a skeptic! LOL!

Seriously, these loony ideas are far more popular than sensible ideas.

Why that is is a question for mass psychology.

My supposition is that it's more psychically comforting to believe nonsense that reinforces one's own ignorant prejudices than to seriously contemplate the 'otherness' of ancient cultures or of esoteric, math-dependent science.

Three-card monte dealers make a lot more money than their debunkers.

[Dinsdale]

The modern pyramid was built using methods that would scale (add more people pulling and each stone could be larger) and they where fitted as close as the stones in the great pyramids. Not as close as some south american stuctures admittedly.

Would'nt an alien race and/or advanced civilization have known how to build the ceiling of the kings chamber? As I understand it there were apparently flaws in the initial design, a broken 'roof stone' and an ugly kludge for reinforcement.

[Dinsdale]

You're just a skeptic! LOL!

Engineering degrees, advanced BS detectors.

On the other hand, I'm spending some time thinking about TT Brown capacitors. They certainly appear to violate newtons laws of motion (reactionless drives). The problem is the cranks surrounding these things drive off serious inquiry. I'm currently repeating the lab work for grins and to keep myself busy untill the contracting market improves. I am kind of attached to Newtons laws and Maxwells equations. But I love questions with no easy answers.

[blam]

"The rest you know. Of the 11K stones, there are very few truely interesting stones. The scientist was happy with his find, and the farmer got big coin for his couple of days of carving effort. That seems to be the more likely scenario."

I agree.

However, I seem to remember reading that someone completely independent of the farmer and Mr. Chavez dug up some of the same engraved stones from under a house that was built before the farmer was born. (I still can't believe this story though)

[SengirV]

Thanks for the laugh. I've had this name for quite a while now. I don't have the heart to give it up.

[SengirV]

However, I seem to remember reading that someone completely independent of the farmer and Mr. Chavez dug up some of the same engraved stones from under a house that was built before the farmer was born. (I still can't believe this story though)

Oh, I have no doubt that there are lots of these stones and most or quite legit. My point was that the interesting ones only seem to have come from one farmer who got money for them. That is what I was going for.

[Senator Pardek]

We outlined some of those taboo subjects at the beginning of the article; now we should add that it is also "unwholesome" and "unacceptable" to engage in any of the following research pursuits: paranormal phenomena, UFOs, cold fusion, free energy and all the rest of the "pseudo-sciences".

Taboo subjects? Nah - they're just crackpot endeavours.

[blam]

"The Olmec heads are clearly negroid."

Without a doubt. The oldest dated human skeleton ever found in the Americas (Brazil) is of a Negroid woman (Luzia) who died at about 24 years of age. The skeleton has been dated at 11,500 years old. There is another skeleton (Arlington Springs Woman) found on an island off the coast of California that is expected to date older than 'Luzia.'

[blam]

Calico: A 200,000 Year Old Site In The Americas?

[Waco]

I've always suspected the Shadow People of building the Sphinx.

[blam]

"On the other hand, I'm spending some time thinking about TT Brown capacitors."

"OK. it basically comes down to this : true anti-gravity (at least on a macroatomic scale) is an impossibility according to all the known laws of physics (If I'm wrong, please tell me, because I'd like to see those equations). However, many things can be made to appear as if they are antigravitic. For example, take the little-understood phenomenon of the Bifield-Brown effect, discovered by T. Townsend Brown. It basically states that a properly chaped capacitor, when charged to a high enough voltage (at least 10 KV, often more) will thrust towards the positive side through some electrokinetic field effect unrelated to the ionic wind (I have tested this myself and it works). This is often called "electrogravity," but that is completely wrong. It is electorkinetic propulsion. The thrust is the same up and down as it is side to side if you rotate the capacitor. It is completely unrelated to gravity. Another example it magnetic repulsion. Has all the "symptoms" of true antigravity, but it's not - it's just magnetism. In conclusion, antigravity-like effects can be produced in many ways, but true antigravity (without the assistance of a black hole or some similar device to warp the fabric of space itself) is an impossibility."