Posted on 02/27/2024 7:04:19 PM PST by Mariner
They can figure it out, although who are they going to fight? Muslim immigrants/invaders? GET ON IT.
What would they need carriers for? Missiles and drones make carriers sitting targets.
They only want what is theirs, and the entire western world is against Russia, not the puny satellite called Ukraine.
We’re not pulling out of NATO and Trump isn’t pulling us out of NATO.
But we have numbsculls playing into this anti Trump crap who may cost Trump the election.
Leaving NATO would be geopolitical insanity.
I don't know, the percentage of Europeans who speak Russian is at a record low, so I'd say it's worked pretty well in its desired goal of keeping the Russians contained, the recent unpleasantness in Ukraine notwithstanding.
I must have missed that point where Ukraine invaded Russia.
Who said the US was pulling out of NATO?
German industry is the key; but Germany wishes to resume trade with Russia as soon as possible . . . and does not wish to take steps that delay that goal.
NOTICE in the following table, where the bulk of original NATO members are, and Germany among them.
Sources:
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/nato-member-defense-spending-summit/
https://www.statista.com/chart/14636/defense-expenditures-of-nato-countries/
EXCERPTS:
In 2014, NATO was collectively spending $910 billion annually on defense, but in 2023, that figure is $1.1 trillion.
While U.S. defense spending has grown from $660 billion to $743 billion during that period, the defense spending of the rest of NATO has increased at a higher pace, from $250 billion in 2014 to $356 billion in 2023.
Some of that growth, however, was due to adding three new NATO members since 2017: Macedonia, Montenegro, and Finland.
Shares of Real GDP in 2023:
- Poland 3.90
- U.S. 3.49 (original member NATO)
- Greece 3.01
- Estonia 2.73
- Lithuania 2.54
- Slovak Republic 2.54
- Finland 2.45
- Romania 2.44
- Hungary 2.43
- Latvia 2.27
- United Kingdom 2.07 (original member NATO)
- France 1.90 (original member NATO)
- Montenegro 1.87
- North Macedonia 1.87
- Bulgaria 1.84
- Croatia 1.79
- Albania 1.76
- Netherlands 1.70 (original member NATO)
- Norway 1.67 (original member NATO)
- Denmark 1.65 (original member NATO)
- Germany 1.57
- Czech Republic 1.50
- Portugal 1.48 (original member NATO)
- Italy 1.46 (original member NATO)
- Canada 1.38 (original member NATO)
- Slovenia 1.35
- Turkey 1.31
- Spain 1.26
- Belgium 1.13 (original member NATO)
- Luxembourg 0.72 (original member NATO)
If the once great empires of Portugal, Spain, Britain, Holland, France, Germany, Italy (formerly Rome), and Lithuania-Poland can’t defend themselves then how can the relative youngster US pretend to?
A treaty is a contract.
NATO is a contract.
Europe is in violation of the contract.
The contract is null and void.
Nailed it!!
Europe’s population is 2.25 times of the USA but we still have to wipe their butt.
They laughed at Trump when he warned them.
Firstly, European countries should spend more, yes, 5% is a good number.
Secondly, remember that article 5 of NATO was invoked only once, by the USA. And NATO allies answered the call.
Withdrawing while those same allies are building up is just churlish.
Give the other NATO countries a strict dead, say 3 years, to shape up
We should get out of the NATO rat’s nest. We need to keep our money and weapons to defend ourselves;,
Russia is facing a military comparable to the one we faced in Vietnam, one that had eight years to fortify their positions and that has received tens of billions of dollars of weapons, ammo, missiles and tanks from the West.
The war in Ukraine is a NATO proxy war with Russia and NATO is getting its ass kicked.
Russia never had to be our enemy. But, if you consider Russia to the enemy, being in denial about their military capabilities is incredibly stupid.
Uncle Sugar is broke. So sorry.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.