Posted on 02/11/2024 3:05:05 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
Between the UK, France, Germany, Poland, Finland, and Sweden they can handle the cost of European defense.
Oh SH*T! It’s even worse than we thought in Ukraine | Redacted with Clayton Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocf_Cem0m0c&ab_channel=Redacted
REPORT! Zelensky set to flee Ukraine to live in Dubai after Nuland visit | Redacted News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS7XL9_ddyE&ab_channel=Redacted
“Ukraine’s ARMY is about to collapse and Zelensky is finished” Fmr. Marine Scott Ritter | Redacted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUJneh5miJQ&ab_channel=Redacted
U.S. Military Aid to Ukraine Was Poorly Tracked, Pentagon Report Concludes
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4209528/posts
Ukraine war: Kyiv forced to cut military operations as foreign aid dries up
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4204366/posts
Ukraine may lose war in summer if military aid from America and EU comes to end, US official says
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4204119/posts
America is in debt to their eyeballs. You mean make the debt bigger to fight foreign unnecessary wars?
I doubt it will be a gradual decline. The U.S. is illegally involved in this unprovoked proxy war and should have never been within 5000 miles of this crap show. That being said, what we are doing to the Ukes puts a shiv in their back. This is turning into another despicable double cross similar to our 1975 cut and run. This has been an unwinnable war from the beginning. A complete collapse will occur quickly once it starts. The sooner the better to save as many Uke and Russian troops as possible.
Let the EU pay for arming Ukraine. This war is in their neighborhood, not ours. The EU never wants to pay for anything. Their expectation is that good old Uncle Sam will pick up the tab and they will only have to shell out a little. Screw that. America First here as we try to tend to our own open border created by a corrupt, senile, demented old fool socialist bent on destroying our own country while propping up Ukraine’s endless border war with Russia.
No doubt it would lead to Ukraine collapsing sooner rather than later after we throw a piece of the treasury down that money pit. That is irrelevant. The realpolitick objective as relates to our interests in this lost war in which we have no vital national security interest should be to get Zelensky to the negotiating table to cut his losses and at least retain most of his country as a buffer. Cutting your losses is a valid strategy in any war. Such a deal had been worked out and could have been accepted two years ago before Biden decided he wanted to throw away money down that firehole and, through Boris Johnson, had Zelensky pull out of the deal. Not another dime for Ukraine until they get to the negotiating table to resurrect the deal
Eff ‘em.
Death by a thousand cuts. Retreat by inches. Messy, slow, and with an air of inevitability.
When was this ever an American war? I know that sounds heartless, but elections have consequences, and this one, like the revolution in Iran, will ring down through the decades and still be vexing the world half a century from now.
The Russian Federation will still be a rickety slipshod conglomeration, held together only with force of arms.
>>what we are doing to the Ukes puts a shiv in their back
“it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.”
Henry Kissinger
And shutting down the flow of arms to Ukraine is not and option - it's a necessity.
We have simply run out of munitions reserves to send to Ukraine . The cupboard is bare and the warehouses are empty. It will take us a decade to rebuild stockpiles.We have already seriously compromised our national security by draining our ammunition reserves and our generals are saying no mas. It's an industrial base issue.
And as the article documents the Ukrainians have been indiscriminately blowing through the munitions we provide at a stunning rate. They make no attempts to prioritize and squander the assets like they have an unlimited supply.
Ukraine has literally blown through the munitions we have stockpiled for 50 years to wage a complete WWIII in the European Theater.
Unfortunately, that is precisely the lesson that so many on this forum wish to put out to the world.
Negotiate peace before it becomes surrender.
If your neighbor's house was on fire you'd refuse to let 'em use your hose.
Wouldn't even let 'em use your phone to call the fire department.
Nice. Glad you don't live near me.
If the Biden administration got out of the way of American oil and gas production,distribution and exploration the Russians and the Iranians would soon be bankrupt and unable to afford their adventures. But Biden will be Biden.
I doubt Zelensky will live. He knows too much.
So what is the exit strategy for the US? Will we continue to borrow hundreds of billions of dollars to send to Ukraine forever? We are the world’s biggest debtor nation. The interest alone to service our $34 trillion national debt is $1 trillion annually, more than the defense budget. We can’t afford these endless wars.
“The Impact of Ending Military Aid to Ukraine: Gradual Decline, Then Collapse”
It doesn’t take much to turn that headline to a truth here:
“The impact of welfare aid to illegals: Gradual Decline, Then Collapse”
Giving countless of billions of dollars to Ukraine is the same thing as giving countless billions to illegals, it just piles billions on the national debt making our inevitable collapse even sooner. Another absolute to giving money to Ukraine is that Americans (by default) will keep the murdering of Ukrainians going.
In essence the US is committing suicide on more fronts than one can count.
Hell - we’ve already thrown away enough money to keep our entire military running for over a year - enough!
Let the stand up comic move to S. America and try to sneak across our border.
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