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The Colorado Ruling Changed My Mind (barf)
The Atlantic ^ | Dec 20, 2023 | George T. Conway III

Posted on 12/20/2023 6:52:58 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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Simply put, the 14th Amendment applies to those whom have put up arms against the United States. That was its purpose. The problem is that the Democrats have ‘with whole cloth’ attempted by public opinion to change the meaning of ‘insurrection’. Insurrection does not occur when people protest that safeguards for a national election, including state election laws, were subverted and need to be investigated. Insurrection does occur when armed government employees, and unarmed employees, start birddogging a legal protest.

There is ZERO evidence anyone was armed with firearms at the Jan 6th protest, except the Capital police and FBI. Government birddogging of a protest is not the same as the protesters being armed for an insurrection. Further, I see ZERO evidence that Trump organized militia, had armed militia at the protest, or incited violence. There already exists evidence that the government bussed in Antifa, and FBI agents, and fired into a legal protest crowd.

Let the people decide if it was an insurrection, that’s what’s voting is for.


41 posted on 12/21/2023 3:38:20 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: tired&retired

Okay so now he weighs 400 pounds instead of 440.


42 posted on 12/21/2023 3:42:38 AM PST by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

You can’t FIX STUPID


43 posted on 12/21/2023 5:20:42 AM PST by eyeamok
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To be honest maybe it really does not matter. The 14th Amendment talks about officers who “...shall have engaged in insurrection...”. It doesn`t seem to require criminal prosecution or even conviction. So maybe it`s for the judges ruling on the disqualification do decide.

The strange thing is that even the dissenting judges didn`t see a problem and apparently didn`t find it necessary to discuss what exactly constitutes an insurrection. Strange because there is no definition of the word in the 14th.


44 posted on 12/21/2023 5:57:26 AM PST by MoraBlack
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Oops, found the ruling. There is an extensive discussion of the term insurrection in the majority opinion.


45 posted on 12/21/2023 6:13:55 AM PST by MoraBlack
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

For starters, none of the dissents challenged the district court’s factual finding that Trump had engaged in an insurrection.


Because it was viewed as irrelevant nonsense.


46 posted on 12/21/2023 7:44:16 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Dough-faced George of the Bumble, the John Wilkes Booth Project laureate, says a thing.

The thing is an anti-Trump 2 Minutes Hate philippic.

Imagine my shock.


47 posted on 12/21/2023 5:52:28 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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