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The Colorado Ruling Changed My Mind (barf)
The Atlantic ^ | Dec 20, 2023 | George T. Conway III

Posted on 12/20/2023 6:52:58 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

“To execute a man we don’t need proof of his guilt. We only need proof that it’s necessary to execute him. It’s that simple.” — Ernesto Che Guevara.


21 posted on 12/20/2023 7:35:09 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Right Brother

22 posted on 12/20/2023 7:37:22 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: dfwgator

Well, he didn’t mince any words.


23 posted on 12/20/2023 7:46:02 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: merkova

Democrats are the enemy of all that is good, decent and righteous. The father of lies smiles when he sees how faithfully his disciples are carrying out his evil agenda.


24 posted on 12/20/2023 7:52:44 PM PST by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: Nervous Tick

Like Matalin and Carville.


25 posted on 12/20/2023 7:52:59 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If Chris Christie and Michael Cohen could create an @ss-baby, it would look exact like that loser.


26 posted on 12/20/2023 7:57:10 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

He needs to stop catcalling Donald! Donald Trump doesn’t want to date him because Donald is already married to Melania.


27 posted on 12/20/2023 8:22:38 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Mr. Kellyanne Fitzpatrick weighs in again.


28 posted on 12/20/2023 8:43:14 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

LOL Headline...

“George Conway Revenge Body: Kellyanne Conway’s Trump Bashing Ex-husband Has Lost 40 Pounds Since Divorce”

https://radaronline.com/p/kellyanne-conways-trump-bashing-ex-husband-george-lost-40-pounds-since-divorce/


29 posted on 12/20/2023 9:02:30 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Indeed, the Colorado decision invites a riposte from the Red States. Simply have Red State legislatures enact a law that no candidate who has committed impeachable offenses may be on the ballot for election, with the determination to be made by the legislature or the state court system.

Then have the legislature hold a hearing and vote that neither Joe Biden or Kamala Harris may be on the ballot because their administration opened the border in violation of federal law and Biden took bribes. Under the reasoning of the Colorado decision, the lack of an actual impeachment is no bar to such a decision.

30 posted on 12/20/2023 9:40:06 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Sorry, I quit reading when I saw the author’s name.


31 posted on 12/20/2023 9:42:09 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: hanamizu

63 former Confederate soldiers served in the Senate alone, according to Senate web site.
The law cited was never used to unseat them.
And Trump never took a oath to fight against the Republic.

Let the Colorado supreme court put that in their pipe and smoke it.


32 posted on 12/20/2023 9:51:25 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: RedMonqey

No, the argument is that anyone who took an oath to defend the Constitution, which Trump did upon being sworn in, and then participatied in an ‘insurrection’ against the U.S. is disqualified from holding any state, local or national office.

Congress later did pass laws that pretty much allowed ex-Confederate office holders and officers to serve in public office.

The whole 14th Amendment idea is absurd, but democrats are pushing it nonetheless.


33 posted on 12/20/2023 10:05:27 PM PST by hanamizu ( )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
This case seems headed for the Supreme Court of the United States, which has no authority to make definitive pronouncements about state law. In Colorado, the Supreme Court of Colorado has the last word on that.

How does this crap even get published? Oh my God, the stupidity.

34 posted on 12/20/2023 10:07:23 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Does this da POS not understand that appellate courts do not normally rule on District Courts’ ‘finding of facts’?

-fJRoberts-


35 posted on 12/20/2023 10:17:37 PM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
[Conway] Section 3 doesn’t apply to him because the person holding what the Constitution itself calls the “Office of the President” is, somehow, not an “officer of the United States."

That "somehow" is the Constitution, Article 2, §2, The Appointments Clause:

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep099/usrep099508a/usrep099508a.pdf

United States v Germaine, 99 US 508, 509-510 (1878)

The argument is that provision is here made for the appointment of all officers of the United States, and that defendant, not being appointed in either of the modes here mentioned, is not an officer, though he may be an agent or employee working for the government and paid by it, as nine-tenths of the persons rendering service to the government undoubtedly are, without thereby becoming its officers.

The Constitution for purposes of appointment very clearly divides all its officers into two classes. The primary class requires a nomination by the President and confirmation by the Senate. But foreseeing that when offices became numerous, and sudden removals necessary, this mode might be inconvenient, it was provided that, in regard to officers inferior to those specially mentioned, Congress might by law vest their appointment in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments. That all persons who can be said to hold an office under the government about to be established under the Constitution were intended to be included within one or the other of these modes of appointment there can be but little doubt. This Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and no act of Congress is of any validity which does not rest on authority conferred by that instrument. It is, therefore, not to be supposed that Congress, when enacting a criminal law for the punishment of officers of the United States, intended to punish any one not appointed in one of those modes. If the punishment were designed for others than officers as defined by the Constitution, words to that effect would be used, as servant, agent, person in the service or employment of the government; and this has been done where it was so intended, as in the sixteenth section of the act of 1846, concerning embezzlement, by which any officer or agent of the United States, and all persons participating in the act, are made liable. 9 Stat. 59.

As the defendant here was not appointed by the President or by a court of law, it remains to inquire if the Commissioner of Pensions, by whom he was appointed, is the head of a department, within the meaning of the Constitution, as is argued by the counsel for plaintiffs.

No elected official is an officer of the United States.

36 posted on 12/20/2023 10:49:02 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: Nervous Tick
Even his long-suffering wife had enough of his stupidity. Their teen daughter was ruined by the family disfunction, she previousylly accused her parents of emotional abuse. She is now 18 has turned into some sort of sluty entertainer, and I think she said she is gay. A real "10" for child rearing, there!

One assumes with Dad out of the picture Mom might be trying to salvage the other 3. (The slut, Claudia, is the oldest) NBC News: Kellyanne and George Conway announce divorce

37 posted on 12/20/2023 11:20:48 PM PST by Vlad0
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
That Trump was never charged nor found guilty of "insurrection" does not seem to matter here.

Evidently Federal law makes insurrection a crime punishable by fine or up to ten years in prison.

The Colorado Supreme Court has decided, without a criminal trial, to determine that Trump is guilty. Suppose that some time in the future Trump is tried for insurrection and is found NOT GUILTY. Would Trump deserve something more than just an apology from the Colorado Supreme Court?

Is it the job of the U.S. Supreme Court to advise the Colorado Supreme Court that they have no power to convict trump of a federal felony? Or should the judges of the Colorado Supreme Court have picked up on that in law school?

38 posted on 12/20/2023 11:32:25 PM PST by William Tell
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

A stupid person wrote this piece


39 posted on 12/20/2023 11:36:47 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: hanamizu

Yes it is absurd but that never stopped the liberals nor their lickspittle media from pursuing it.


40 posted on 12/21/2023 12:51:48 AM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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