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AOC claims working class residents fleeing NYC because it’s too expensive
NY Post ^ | 11/27/2023 | Carl Campanile

Posted on 11/28/2023 11:36:57 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

People are leaving New York because the city is turning into a democrat crime ridden hellhole with high taxes... the homeless, illegals and thugs aren’t helping. And Mayor Adams? What’s he doing? He’s going around the city breaking windows.


21 posted on 11/28/2023 1:06:09 PM PST by GOPJ (Ignorant but arrogant is a sad way to start an adult life. Victor Davis Hanson on Ivy college grads)
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To: adorno

Many wealthy have five or six homes—with one in NYC.

They don’t even have to move anywhere to leave.

AOC thinks she can herd cats.

;-)


22 posted on 11/28/2023 1:08:35 PM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: Alberta's Child
one of the potential sites was in the district next to hers (then represented by Carolyn Maloney). And AOC had nothing to do with the project’s demise. Amazon decided to build the HQ complex in Virginia after several key New York State legislators withdrew their support for the project in NYC.

You and I debated this point in March of this year. You never replied to my citations of proof.


I’m no fan of AOC, but this idea that she helped kill the Amazon deal in NYC is a myth. She had just been elected and wasn’t even in office when that fiasco went down. She just jumped on an anti-Amazon bandwagon that had already killed the deal.

You are wrong about this.

She may have been just elected, but she was an early starter of that bandwagon, and the "fiasco went down" three months after she spoke out, and one month after she took office.

According to the liberal Business Insider sourced timeline story:

  1. Amazon's headquarters are in Seattle, employing more than 45,000 workers.
  2. However, in 2017, Amazon announced it was on the hunt for a second headquarters, dubbed HQ2. Amazon said the new headquarters would bring 50,000 new jobs and a $5 billion investment.
  3. Amazon received 238 proposals as cities across North America tried to win over the e-commerce giant. (10/23/2017)
  4. In January 2018, Amazon revealed its shortlist of 20 regions. (1/18/2018)
  5. After months of deliberation and rumors, Amazon announced in November 2018 that it would actually split the second headquarters between New York and Virginia. One office would be in the Long Island City neighborhood of Queens, New York, and the other would be in National Landing, a newly formed area in Northern Virginia. Amazon said each headquarters would receive roughly 25,000 new jobs. (11/6/2018)
  6. New York's HQ2 bid was strongly supported by Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio. "I'll change my name to Amazon Cuomo if that's what it takes," Cuomo told reporters...(11/5/18)
  7. New York politicians began speaking out against Amazon's HQ2 plans almost immediately after plans to develop the headquarters in Queens were announced. "Amazon is a billion-dollar company," Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted in November. "The idea that it will receive hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks at a time when our subway is crumbling and our communities need MORE investment, not less, is extremely concerning to residents here." (11/13/2018)
  8. In late November, protesters stormed an Amazon Books store in Manhattan. (11/26/2018)
  9. However, while Virginians and local politicians reacted mostly positively to the news, New Yorkers were less optimistic about HQ2. Amazon's plans raised concerns that the second headquarters could increase homelessness rates, send rents skyrocketing, paralyze public transportation, and create other problems for residents. (11/26/2018)
  10. A proposed $3 billion in tax incentives infuriated politicians and New Yorkers. A December poll found that 46% of New Yorkers said they supported the incentives, while 44% said they opposed it citywide. (12/5/2018)
  11. Amazon was slammed in the first of a series of planned hearings about Amazon's HQ2 deal in December. (12/12/2018)
  12. In January, New York City Council Speaker Corey Johnson told Business Insider that HQ2 was not "a done deal." "This is the beginning of a process where the public and the City Council and other elected officials are going to continue to seek answers and understand whether or not this is a good deal for New York City, or if we got played." (1/6/2019)
  13. Amazon began mailing New Yorkers ads touting the benefits of HQ2. (1/8/2019)
  14. In late January, Amazon unveiled new plans to win over New Yorkers. In another New York City Council meeting, Amazon pledged to reach out to small businesses, offer customer-service jobs to residents of local public-housing developments, and work on secondary- and higher-education initiatives. (1/30/2019)
  15. In early February, news broke that a noted Amazon critic had been nominated for a position in which he could veto HQ2. The New York Senate leader nominated Michael Gianaris, a vocal opponent of HQ2, for a seat on the New York State Public Authorities Control Board. (2/4/2019)
  16. On February 8, The Washington Post reported that Amazon was reconsidering its plan to open a campus in New York. "The question is whether it's worth it if the politicians in New York don't want the project, especially with how people in Virginia and Nashville have been so welcoming," a person familiar with Amazon's plans told The Washington Post. (2/8/2019)
  17. Amazon said it made the decision because "a number of state and local politicians have made it clear that they oppose our presence and will not work with us to build the type of relationships that are required to go forward with the project." (2/14/2019)

The Amazon HQ site wasn’t even in AOC’s district

That district has been redistricted several times. The HQ site was just about a mile below the border of her current district, meaning that most of the workers would be from her district (the others having to cross a bridge to get there. Also, it was in the district prior to 2012 redistricting.

The deal was doomed early on as soon as several members of the city council and state legislature who represented that part of NYC — and had previously agreed to the deal — turned around and opposed it.

She was one of the first to publicly speak out against it.

And their opposition surfaced even before AOC figured out how to spell “HQ.”

The Business Insider timeline suggests otherwise. Can you show me proof that several members of the city council and state legislature who represented that part of NYC spoke out before AOC did? As far as I can tell, they all spoke out at essentially the same time, in mid November 2018.

I think you are being a little "loose" with your timeline.


Still waiting...

-PJ

23 posted on 11/28/2023 1:10:02 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

She wondered why the mayor and council weren’t looking to boost taxes on the wealthy.

The idiot beer slinger doesn’t know if the city took every cent the rich had it wouldn’t put a dent in the problems of NYC.

She’s just another obsessed communist about making everyone poorer a pure socialist to the bone.


24 posted on 11/28/2023 1:17:26 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Pretty rich coming from someone who took illegal gifts of gala tickets and a dress to spit on the little people:

https://nypost.com/2023/03/02/aocs-met-gala-appearance-likely-violated-law-house-ethics-chair/

25 posted on 11/28/2023 2:08:25 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“During her tele-town hall meeting, she wondered why the mayor and council weren’t looking to boost taxes on the wealthy”

Oh, yeah. Higher taxes on the wealthy is sure to reduce the cost of living for working class residents of new york city.


26 posted on 11/28/2023 3:14:41 PM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

wondered why the mayor and council weren’t looking to boost taxes on the wealthy

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Well now, there’s a novel idea. I’m wondering why a democrat never thought of that before now.


27 posted on 11/28/2023 3:38:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 (There are only two sexes but there are 57 different types of queers.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

isn’t this the woman who drove 27000 amazon jobs out of her district?


28 posted on 11/28/2023 6:52:17 PM PST by coalminersson (since )
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To: rovenstinez

Isn’t this the dumb broad who was shocked that food “GROWS OUT OF DIRT”?


29 posted on 11/28/2023 10:14:04 PM PST by 5th MEB
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