Posted on 07/26/2023 1:29:51 PM PDT by thegagline
I don’t mind he has run companies, I just wonder if he got govt helps (money etc) being of non citizen parents - in life, in schooling, in starting and running business.
I haven’t seen info on those things. If they came here and didn’t take hand outs, just got jobs and worked hard, had Vivek and took no helps in raising schooling etc
any person getting money from govt because they are foreign or similar situation is taking our away from a US Citizen who had a need.
Plenty of us US Citizens get stepped on so newbies can get ahead. I don’t like it.
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....in article written almost 100 years ago by Alexander Porter Morse. He writes that by drawing on the term so well known from English law, the Founders were recognizing “the law of hereditary, rather than territorial allegiance.” In other words, they were drawing on the English legal tradition, which protected allegiance to the king by conferring citizenship on all children “whose fathers were natural-born subjects,” regardless of where the children were born. Thus, according to Morse, “the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the President should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth.” He goes on to say that the presidential eligibility clause “was scarcely intended to bar the children of American parentage, whether born at sea or in foreign territory…. A natural-born citizen has been defined as one whose citizenship is established by the jurisdiction which the United States already has over the parents of the child, not what is thereafter acquired by choice of residence in this country.”
Although this legal history was never explicitly addressed at the Constitutional Convention, Morse’s view is similar to a statement by Charles Pinckney in 1800, namely, that the presidential eligibility clause is designed “to insure … attachment to the country” on the part of the President. This statement is discussed in more detail below.
Morse also emphasizes the difference between the terms “native-born” and “natural-born.” The dictionary, which follows the English precedents, defines “native-born” as “belonging to or associated with a particular place (as a country) by birth therein” and “natural-born” as “having a specified status or character by birth.” If the Founders had not wanted an expansive definition of citizenship, Morse writes, “it would only have been necessary to say, ‘no person, except a native-born citizen.’”
a well-known treatise on the Constitution published in 1803, like Charles Pinckney’s statement in the U.S. Senate in 1800, explicitly discusses the linkage between the “natural born citizen” clause and the need to avoid foreign influence. In particular, this treatise says:
That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, whereever it is capable of being exerted, is to be dreaded more than the plague. The admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against; their total exclusion from a station to which foreign nations have been accustomed to, attach ideas of sovereign power, sacredness of character, and hereditary right, is a measure of the most consummate policy and wisdom. It was by means of foreign connections that the stadtholder of Holland, whose powers at first were probably not equal to those of a president of the United States, became a sovereign hereditary prince before the late revolution in that country.
His dad worked for GE as a Patent Attorney and Engineer and his mom was a trained Geriatric Psychiatrist so they immigrated fully trained bringing skills.
Based upon the planned outcome no better example of its worth than Vivek who is MAGA in spades.
Google:
native-born
“About 1,020,000,000 results”
It is a very valid term.
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I love that guy!
I’ve seen that guy trapesing around NH every 4 years when the Primaries come around.
Him and his pal Vermin Supreme always pop up around here at that time.
The NH primary contenders is a hoot. When I go in to vote there are like 40 Repubs and some 60+ Dems on the ticket. It’s crazy.
He might be a ascending but he doesn’t ascend to the level of being an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He’s not one. His parents weren’t naturalized citizens when he was born.>>> When were they naturalized? I’ve looked and can’t find anything.
Independents in my state(Oregon) are nothing more than an extension of the democrat party.
It’s quite disturbing to think the direction of a nation depends on the shallowness of independent and suburban women voters.>>> And what is truly interesting is that his views are not middle of the road for independents at all. He wants to reduce the FED by 90% get rid of Dept. of ED. and several other depts.
Best combination of trump Reagan and einstein
I give you two on point US Supreme Court cases and you cite Google as legal authority. I hope you haven’t let your legal malpractice insurance lapse.
Yes, it is much better to listen to Barr, Wray, Bolton, Milley, Fauci etc
LOL never wrong!!!!! ya sure your perfect
he was born in the united states period
the court have already ruled on this issue
The battle is on, for the tallest midget category.
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