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China Turns Its Fighters Into UAVs; Could Swarm Taiwan From Five ‘Hardened’ Forward Airfields – Reports
The EurAsian Times ^ | November 22, 2022 | Parth Satam

Posted on 11/22/2022 4:43:28 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew

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To: allendale

To hack, a system must be open.

Presumably, a drone would be programmed and go, with no recall.

Now, if it’s interactive, where people guide it, then yes, the CNC can be hacked.


21 posted on 11/22/2022 6:42:41 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
Leftist sure can’t stand people doing their own thing, going their own way.

Any sane group would let Taiwan go. It’s not bothering anybody.

You misunderstand power.

The Chinese Communist Party has one mission: Stay in power.

They use Taiwan as a tool to stay in power.

Taiwan is a threat because it is extremely successful, without the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

It is a living example that Chinese do not need the CCP to live a successful life.

22 posted on 11/22/2022 6:51:17 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I do not misunderstand.

I find the pursuit of power for the sake of power insane.

The democrats are exactly the same.


23 posted on 11/22/2022 6:53:05 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

Bkmk


24 posted on 11/22/2022 7:09:10 PM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: Brian Griffin
The US isn’t going to defend Taiwan.

Ukraine corruption has proven extremely profitable to many politicians. Since Nancy Pelosi took her investor son to Taiwan, there has been a flood of Uniparty delegations taking their own offspring to Taiwan. It's obvious what they have planned.

Because Taiwan's and China's economies are so integrated, somewhere north of 40% of Taiwan voters already want to merge with China. 10% of Taiwanese already live in China. All it would take is $400 million Zuckerbucks to make it happen, which is by far the cheaper option for everyone. Eventually, there will be a successful vote to merge with China. They might as well get it over with before the corruption gets out of hand, the CCP puts boots on the ground, and a lot of people get killed.

25 posted on 11/22/2022 7:19:17 PM PST by Reeses
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To: allendale

That would be fun to watch the Chicoms hoisted by their own petards.


26 posted on 11/22/2022 7:34:28 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Spktyr

But these UAVs are old fighter jets that won’t just take off by themselves. They will have to be guided to altitude and THEN maybe a target entered in for it to fly blindly.


27 posted on 11/22/2022 7:40:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: spetznaz

Exactly, use up your expensive, sophisticated missiles against drones and then the more modern fighters and bombers swoop in.


28 posted on 11/22/2022 7:51:39 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: palmer

Good question. The Air Force can turn the GPS satellites signals off, but so much equipment is dependent on GPS that they probably wouldn’t. Older aircraft used inertial navigation systems for guidance, but from my experience, they are now obsolete and probably few people still repair them.


29 posted on 11/22/2022 7:58:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: ETCM

From what I gather, the F-16s used in drones are at the end of their airframes’ and engines’ useful lives.


30 posted on 11/22/2022 8:01:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

31 posted on 11/22/2022 8:50:04 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: Brian Griffin

All they have to do is buy some of japans nukes.🤔


32 posted on 11/22/2022 10:24:15 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

That is an awful nice Three Gorges Dam you got there... It would be a real shame if someone popped it...”


33 posted on 11/23/2022 5:09:56 AM PST by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: palmer

GPS, essentially. Though they’d likely use their own navsat network or compare all three of the big applicable ones in their area.

Doesn’t need to be able to accept commands after takeoff - remember, it is just there to soak up missiles. It doesn’t even have to land.


34 posted on 11/23/2022 6:36:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Nope. Fit it with the control system out of a $1000-2000 DJI (yup, they’re mainland Chinese) remote control drone with some added programming and let it go.

Remember, these things already had rudimentary autopilots which can be adapted to be controlled by commercial drone hardware. And a commercial drone computer can absolutely deal with launching, climbing to altitude, then holding course via satnav fixes. And if a few of the things crash on takeoff, nobody will care.

You need to go look at what commercial *consumer* drone hardware can do these days.


35 posted on 11/23/2022 6:40:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Psssst: The Chinese and Russians have their own GPS-style constellations. Turning ours off will have little effect.


36 posted on 11/23/2022 6:41:28 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I still think a 1950s and 60s era fighters will require more than a rudimentary control system.


37 posted on 11/23/2022 6:42:45 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Spktyr

I figured as much.


38 posted on 11/23/2022 6:43:47 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Wildbill22

Shame nobody involved in this would be willing (the US) or able to (Taiwan).

Taiwan gave up their nuclear program - the unspoken threat in the days when they did have one was that if the Chinese came over, some of the Taiwanese air force would one-way a B61 equivalent to Beijing. They don’t have any standoff munitions that have the range to do that to the Three Gorges Dam. Check their TOE.

The only people around the area that do have a non-nuclear non-ballistic capability to do that is India. The carrier aircraft would have to do some hauling of their ALCMs inside China, but they’d still be able to standoff at least 800km. And it’d be a supersonic BrahMos I at a minimum.


39 posted on 11/23/2022 6:50:39 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The fighters already have all the mechanical parts needed to take off and fly (autopilot). It’s just a matter of changing out the electrical/electronic controls.

You could do it with a commercial *consumer* drone control system. Not kidding. Those things are shockingly capable. Less than $250 will buy you a camera drone off the shelf that you can fly around by remote, make do maneuvers and such... and then you press the “come home” button on the control pod and the damn thing will come right back by reversing all the maneuvers it just did, *correcting for wind via GPS* and land roughly where you launched it from. All by itself and while independently managing 4-12 rotors.

A 50s/60s era fighter isn’t really going to be a huge problem for it.


40 posted on 11/23/2022 6:57:48 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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