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California has 6 extra representatives thanks to people in their state illegally, report says
Independent Sentinel ^ | July 24, 2020 | M. Dowling

Posted on 07/24/2020 2:25:11 PM PDT by artichokegrower

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Tuesday to prevent illegal immigrants from being counted for the purposes of redrawing congressional districts after the 2020 census.

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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Perfectly said.

Thank you my good FRiend!

21 posted on 07/24/2020 3:23:29 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: BenLurkin

Yup, just like that.


22 posted on 07/24/2020 3:33:43 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: BenLurkin

Yup, just like that.

Oh, and make all Universities and their registered students within New California, territories and citizens of California.


23 posted on 07/24/2020 3:36:21 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: KC_Lion
If you are not a citizen, than you are only visiting and do not permanently belong here.

But Trump's order doesn't address citizenship. There are lots of legal non-citizens here, many only temporarily, that will still be included in the count.

I'm not sure I see his reasoning for the distinction.

24 posted on 07/24/2020 4:03:24 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: artichokegrower

I can tell you straight out that 6 congressional seats is a low number.

There are at LEAST 7-8 million illegals (including recent anchor babies) in California alone. This would put it more likely they have 12-15 congressional seats by illegals. That is more seats than many entire states. It needs to end.


25 posted on 07/24/2020 4:05:22 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
There may be instances where your argument about taxation and representation applies at the local level — but, not nationally.

Leaving aside the taxation issue for now, I also think it's about more than the non-citizens.

Communities that have lots of illegal immigrants through no fault of their own (immigration control is a federal responsibility, after all) need to provide services - roads, police, fire, etc. to all the residents.

That means they need representation to lobby and legislate for resources.

It isn't just about the illegals, it's about the larger communities in which they live.

26 posted on 07/24/2020 4:09:26 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Mr. Blond

No question about that


27 posted on 07/24/2020 4:39:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: artichokegrower

that means that other states are under-represented. Citizens ONLY shall be represented.


28 posted on 07/24/2020 4:51:16 PM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! Derps vs. Patriots, choose your side.)
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To: semimojo

“Communities that have lots of illegal immigrants through no fault of their own (immigration control is a federal responsibility, after all) need to provide services - roads, police, fire, etc. to all the residents.

That means they need representation to lobby and legislate for resources.

It isn’t just about the illegals, it’s about the larger communities in which they live. “


Illegals don’t need ANY service provided except escorted to other side of border or one way ticket back to where they came from.

There is no need for communities to need representation to lobby for money for more services - communiites following the law would be rounding up illegals and getting them out as soon as it’s known an illegal is in the community.

your last sentence - unreal. Illegals have no right to be in the community let alone live there. they have shown they are not law abiding by being illegally there. deport


29 posted on 07/24/2020 5:47:47 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: semimojo; All

Representation pertaining to local services for the illegal aliens and legal foreign residents is often provided through the sanctuary status at the local, County and State level. ....Neither group should get Federal Representation.

We should adopt some of the laws of Mexico. Many foreign citizens (including US citizens) are residents of Mexico. However, they are not permitted to vote or buy land. Only Mexican citizens can vote and each must have a voter ID with photo to do so.


30 posted on 07/24/2020 5:50:16 PM PDT by octex
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To: artichokegrower

With Democrats in control of reapportionment, you can bet that 6 of the 7 Republican seats would disappear.


31 posted on 07/24/2020 7:52:12 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: b4me
...communiites following the law would be rounding up illegals and getting them out as soon as it’s known an illegal is in the community...

But it isn't up to the local government to enforce immigration law. Local communities don't round illegals up and deport them.

Illegals have no right to be in the community let alone live there.

If I'm living next to an illegal immigrant and their house catches on fire I want the fire department to put it out to protect my property.

32 posted on 07/24/2020 9:21:17 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Just consider these communities the same as “sanctuary cities” and reject their voting tabulations as attempted election fraud.


33 posted on 07/24/2020 9:31:10 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month".)
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To: semimojo

“That means they need representation to lobby and legislate for resources.”

Perhaps the solution is fewer resources.

So-called ‘sanctuary cities’ have impeded immigration enforcement. The residents of those cities are just starting to feel the effects of their choices. Residents of sanctuary cities bear most of the responsibility for the consequences of massive illegal immigration.

If there are sanctuary cities, why not have ‘fortress cities’, where the municipal government defies federal immigration laws, by keeping illegal immigrants out?

There are many other options — the important question is who has representation in government? If the answer includes illegal immigrants, then who doesn’t it include?


34 posted on 07/25/2020 2:08:32 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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