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COVID-19 surge pushes US toward deadly cliff
The Hill ^ | 07/12/20 06:00 AM EDT | REID WILSON

Posted on 07/12/2020 10:06:14 AM PDT by robowombat

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To: hawkaw

650 deaths yesterday = 13-14 deaths per state.


61 posted on 07/12/2020 2:44:20 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: wardaddy

Even if it is spreading...it has a 99% recovery rate.


62 posted on 07/12/2020 2:45:47 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: robowombat

PUSHES!

DEADLY CLIFF!


63 posted on 07/12/2020 2:47:37 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: robowombat

Yep. If it is that bad, where are the hospital ships? Where are the field hospitals being set up? No where. Which means the system can handle the surge, which means the surge is not a surge.


64 posted on 07/12/2020 2:48:08 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: robowombat

STRUGGLED!

UNPRECDENTED!

FLEETING WINDOW!

WRESTLE!

DERAIL!


65 posted on 07/12/2020 2:49:06 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: robowombat
More than 80% of intensive care beds are occupied in Arizona, Alabama, and Georgia.

How many ICU beds are occupied in other states? How many ICU beds are normally occupied? How many ICU beds are occupied by strictly-covid patients? Kinda weird how they left that out.

66 posted on 07/12/2020 2:52:17 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: robowombat

India with a billion more people, no social distancing and poor hygiene has just over 28,000 deaths. I wonder why.


67 posted on 07/12/2020 2:54:46 PM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: robowombat

The only thing that can save us is a Biden presidency.


68 posted on 07/12/2020 3:03:05 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (China kills over 550,000 and the sheeple sleep. Cops kill one person, and cities burn.)
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To: DocRock

This might explain the lack of Covid deaths in India:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-cow-urine-pa/hindu-group-offers-cow-urine-in-a-bid-to-ward-off-coronavirus-idUSKBN2110D5


69 posted on 07/12/2020 3:05:30 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (China kills over 550,000 and the sheeple sleep. Cops kill one person, and cities burn.)
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To: robowombat

Crock of crap.


70 posted on 07/12/2020 3:14:29 PM PDT by Fledermaus (ONLY A MORON THINKS 6 FEET IS A MAGIC NUMBER!)
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To: llevrok

Hell, if you get tested they say your positive.

Don’t even have to be tested. I read an article where 2 people went to get tested, filled out the forms, and left after waiting 2 hours without getting tested.

They were notified they were positive.

Lies.


71 posted on 07/12/2020 3:17:47 PM PDT by Fledermaus (ONLY A MORON THINKS 6 FEET IS A MAGIC NUMBER!)
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To: mason-dixon

I know what herd immunity is.

I asked you about human coronaviruses, and why you believe herd immunity is possible with this group of viruses.


72 posted on 07/12/2020 4:16:50 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: robowombat

heres the funny part.

cases are exploding. and they tell us our chance is closing. and to stopbthe spread, we do two things.

first ban large gatherings. like protests.

and wear masks. which were banned when we stopped the soread the first time.

if they are right, we wasted a lot of time and hurt a lot of people for no reason.


73 posted on 07/12/2020 4:16:53 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I read the other day that 70% occupancy is typical for ICUs under normal circumstances. Hospitals try to keep them mostly occupied but with some buffer for surges. In my AL county, ICU occupancy has been rising and is currently at 90%. Last week our local officials, who are politically very conservative, mandated the use of masks in public. It’s technically a misdemeanor not to comply but they’ve hinted strongly that it will not be enforced. So far compliance seems to be near 100%. I don’t like the idea of masks and doubt they do much beyond impeding the spray from a sneeze or cough to some degree, but I figure that’s better than nothing.


74 posted on 07/12/2020 4:19:21 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: FlipWilson

“Not shutting down again”

Nobody, including you, knows what is going to happen in a month.


75 posted on 07/12/2020 4:27:19 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: Snowy

It’s a coin shortage and not a paper cash shortage. Everyone is using cards and coins are not circulating.


76 posted on 07/12/2020 4:30:45 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Trailerpark Badass
"How many ICU beds are normally occupied? How many ICU beds are occupied by strictly-covid patients? Kinda weird how they left that out."

Yeah, that does seem to be kind of important to know.

When I was a resident, our ICU was probably always at 80% occupancy.

We were moving people in and out all the time.

If a hospital has an ICU, it would be pretty stupid to pay for all of that space/staffing and *only* use say 50% of the beds.

77 posted on 07/12/2020 4:56:11 PM PDT by boop (Diarrhea: "So hot right now!")
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To: palmer
This article let the cat out of the bag.

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimate that as many as 25 million people in the U.S. may have contracted it. More than 133,000 people have died, almost twice as many victims as in Brazil, the second-hardest hit country."

Do the math.

25 million people may have had it, yet 133,000 have died from it.

That's a mortality rate of 0.00532.

Using the CDC's own numbers, you realize just how much bull$hit has been spread about Covid.

78 posted on 07/12/2020 5:03:23 PM PDT by boop (Diarrhea: "So hot right now!")
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To: lodi90; Snowy
It’s a coin shortage and not a paper cash shortage. Everyone is using cards and coins are not circulating.

Saw that at a local (CA) Safeway the other day. Sign at Customer Service said they were not giving out coins (usually you can exchange paper money for coins e.g. quarters).

79 posted on 07/12/2020 5:15:07 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: kaehurowing

“You have to measure today’s deaths against cases from 2-3 weeks ago, since it takes 2-3 weeks to die from COVID after once being infected.”

No.

1. You cannot trust the reporting date of any case as the date the case really started. There is too often a difference in time between the date a case is reflected as a “new” case and when it actually was a new case. The same goes for deaths. So, current numbers, as best as they are, are a good enough stand in for measuring death rates per numbers of cases.

2. You are wrong about how long a case lasts before death if death does occur. There is no set time, it varies from patient to patient. A neighbor of mine behind my house lost her husband to the virus on Thursday. He entered the hospital on May 19th. A woman in the news recently died within a week of entering the hospital. It can be days, it can be weeks, and even months - depending on the patient.

3. So, no, measuring deaths today against reported number of cases two weeks ago has no built in accuracy to it.


80 posted on 07/13/2020 6:07:16 AM PDT by Wuli (Get)
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