Posted on 07/10/2020 2:47:05 PM PDT by bjcoop
Tourism is the main business of the rural area I live in-in Summer with Summer people, in Winter with the snowbirds who spend all Winter here in cabins and RV parks-and yes, they’ve brought Wunhan virus here, starting on Memorial Day weekend-are we supposed to kick the tourists out, close our businesses, run around in masks or hide under the bed and go broke? No thanks-we all nearly starved in the Obama economy when the snowbirds had no money to Winter here-so, no thanks-tourist season is welcome...
Abbott is liberal RINO
I’m betting more Republicans would if they knew the anti-mask anti-vaxx thing is coming from RFK, Jr.
I figure it’s part of a two pronged proggy strategy. One- drag the Dems over to the Left. B- make them electable by infiltrating the GOP with RFK, Jr’s batshit crazy conspiracy nonsense. The Reps end up looking like crazy people and the middle holds its nose and votes for the Democrats, who by then are looking saner by comparison.
I don’t have anything beyond the official sources, so verifying exactly what happened in the case of each individual death isn’t something I can help with.
I can say that the official CDC guidelines for classifying deaths as COVID-19 (available here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf) are pretty reasonable. They basically say you need to establish the sequence of events that resulted in death and determine what triggered that sequence of events. So if the person fell off a mountain and died, that isn’t COVID even if they were infected at the time of their death. If the person had COVID-19 and developed fatal pneumonia because the epithelial cells in the lungs were so badly damaged, then you have a COVID-19 death.
But whether the coroner/medical examiner is actually following that guidance for each case? I have no idea.
“schools will open and most likely have to close again.”
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Summer camps may be one way to get an idea what to expect. Some have experienced outbreaks and had to close, but I don’t how many camps have opened as a total across the US.
Awesome! Yes throw his ass out.
Dr. Birx, FWIW, says to discount 25% of what CDC publishes. Over the past six months we have all seen that their level of incompetence is laughable. To me they’re no more credible than WHO.
“2 teachers in my family are saying no way to keep virus from spreading in schools. But, they’re due back on Aug.4. 70% of parents want kids back in school. So.....schools will open and most likely have to close again. It’s difficult for patents who both work.”
I completely agree it’s a real challenge figuring out the schools thing. From what I’ve heard from parents with school age kids, that whole distance learning thing was pretty much garbage. And the kids missed out on a lot of socialization that they really need. So on the one hand, the kids really need to be in school.
On the other, the chances that they’ll keep all the social distancing and sanitation requirements is basically nil, especially for the younger ones. But parents need to be able to work. And kids need to be around kids. So I think that’s a risk/reward calculation they need to make and personally it seems like getting them back in school is worth the risk of additional spread. Maybe I’m crazy for thinking that. Don’t know.
The guidance document on how to record deaths seems very reasonable to me, but I have no idea if they do any sort of enforcement to ensure coroners and medical examiners are actually following that. And if they do any enforcement, I also don’t know how much they do or how good it is. I doubt they really have a stick to swing if somebody’s doing things incorrectly. I don’t think the CDC controls funding to any state health department or hospital. I would imagine that’s all HHS and NIH. So at this point, the best I can really do is skip the media hype and go to the official sources of information.
I wish the hospitals reported their information in a more granular way (for example, who is hospitalized FOR COVID-19 vs who is in the hospital for something else and tested positive for COVID-19).
Just like the doddering old fool in SC.
We do know that there is absolutely no “brain power” in Austin. Likely also in major cities.
‘The sickest COVID patient I have personally seen, ever, got admitted two nights ago (just arrived from Florida).’
what exactly is your job regarding this virus...? you keep spouting the Fauci line, what is you actually do...?
it goes without saying you can tell me to pound sand, but I’m a curious old bugger...
Just stating the obvious that public health officials and the governor has pointed out too. New York barely came through it and made a lot of mistakes along the way. Thus, Texas officials are probably going to pull out all the stops to put out this fire.
oh please. the hospital system has been doing just fine. Even New York in the middle of their self induced crisis did not exceed the hospital system
‘What do you think it will be in 4 weeks when 11,000 cases a day start to die (at the same rate 1200-1400 did)?’
you’re assuming that the same cohorts are testing positive now as then...you don’t know whether those infections are concentrated among younger, healthier people who are far less likely to die...
And the CEO of one of the largest hospital chains admitted less than 1/3 of those ICU patients are covid patients. The system can expand and do what it has to even if elective cases are canceled again
If the hospital system is just fine then why are public health officials and politicians sounding the alarm bells.
It’s not about right now but what is about to happen in a few short weeks. All I got to say is I sure hope you are right and I hope people follow proper health measures.
Just stating the obvious that public health officials and the governor has pointed out too. New York barely came through it and made a lot of mistakes along the way. Thus, Texas officials are probably going to pull out all the stops to put out this fire.
Actually, NY “barely” used the emergency hospitals, hospital ship, etc. Though they did have the brilliant idea to send Chicom flu patients into nursing homes.
All I heard for months is we are only 2 weeks behind Italy. we made all sorts of drastic plans and our hospitals sat largely empty with nurses and other workers furloughed. the prophesied catastrophe never happened but the cries of “wait 2 weeks”’went on for months. Even if texas ICUs are full if only 1/3 are covid patients there is room to expand and problem solve if needed. I’m tired of hearing just wait another couple weeks
I’m an Infectious Disease physician with 40 years experience.
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