Posted on 06/06/2020 4:15:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Do they realize if there were no police to enforce the laws what would stop honest citizens from enforcing the laws including eliminating a few bad guys
We have a chance of winning if we fight back, no chance at all if we don't.
Honest citizens would suffer, for a while. They’re not organized.
When I posted, I was thinking about the recent event where the Latin Kings patrolled their neighborhoods in Chicago, keeping rioters out, because they, and their neighbors owned the stores there. Sometimes its biker gangs that play good guys. THe point is, that at present the government is encouraging criminals and anarchists, who often band together to create mayhem. At the same time, citizen self-defense groups (other than dial-the-cops neighborhood watches) are strongly discouraged.
I think they will use BLM/racial justice to make cop body cameras ubiquitous and mandatory. The feed/footage wont be controlled by the LEO agencies, but by a remote 3rd party using facial recognition and AI. This will eventually make discretionary citations and arrests by LEOs non-optional, they must enforce the law like it is on the books in any interaction or be disciplined or fired.
Then they pass all the bad laws that would be normally be ignored as far as possible by good LEOs. Gun confiscation, limits on public gatherings, whatever.
Freegards
Let’s see how does that work, retire the cops and confiscate our guns. Are they going to do the confiscating on their lonesome. That will be interesting.
Notice Jefferson didn't say, should be, may be, ought to be.
Jefferson said, “The tree of liberty MUST BE refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson knew damn good and well that evil would poke it's ugly head back up once again in the future of this country.
Not advocating...juss sayin.
Never fight on your own property.
You might have toys, but they have better ones
See my tag line.
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No they don’t
They just a slice of the taxpayer budget for social justus programs
They have thugs and know how to abuse you. French revolution
The Second Amendment protects families and homes.
Those who oppose it want to make families and homes vulnerable to attack.
It is the line that must hold.
How many good guys would become bad guys? Never know what would happen in chaos or anarchy.
So, if I dressed like an Antifa member and attended a rally with my AR and AK, stood in the back of the Antifa crowd, and my trigger finger got itchy and took out a whole lot of them, would the Dems applaud my effort at social distancing?
When will the msm ask Slow Joe if he is in favor of defunding police departments across the USA?
I know it will never happen but their platitudes ring hollow and they should be called out for it.
First defunding police. It sounds good in some circles and it plays well to liberals who want the money to go to schools and social programs. However, when crime starts to skyrocket, two things will happen. First people will start to want law and order and second vigilante groups will form. There is absolutely nothing that scares politicians more than armed vigilante groups. When that happens they will demand proper police protection. Unfortunately, one people leave the police force it will take a long time to get trained officers back.
Early adopters of defunding police are going to be poster children for the rest of the country in “what not to do.”
Now as to firearm confiscation. Please remember that there are more privately owned firearms in the USA than there are people. They are not uniformly distributed, but the quantities are beyond the capability of most logistical collection methods, especially if people don't want to give them up.
That is why gun control groups in their proposed laws talk about banning and confiscating just certain classes of firearms, not all firearms. That is why some anti-firearm states like California have elaborate rules on the types of new firearms that can be sold in their state (magazines of 10 rounds or less, no “assault style looking” rifles, no firearms that are not safety tested by a state agency, etc.).
Firearm confiscation requires either voluntary compliance or a significantly high buy back dollar amount. With so many firearms neither is likely to work.
I see an article elsewhere on this site where in San Fran Cali many “artist” and friends have bought guns. The democrat leftists for a number of years have said to many conservatives, red necks, and republicans to go socialist. What do you think those folks intend to do with guns? It will not start with me, but, i will stand by the oath i once swore, “ protect the United States from all enemies, foriegn and domestic”.
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