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CDC data suggests coronavirus may have been in California as early as December
Just the news ^ | April 12, 2020 - 8:41am | Daniel Payne

Posted on 04/12/2020 4:23:31 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk

I don’t think so.

Anyone can say anything, but without actual scientific evidence, it is meaningless.

The fact is that we are in flu season, and most of the illnesses have, in fact, been influenza. They don’t suddenly become cases of Covid-19 because of the pandemic.


41 posted on 04/12/2020 6:13:00 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: matt04

This early but undetected arrival saw a rise in deaths, but likely masked in with deaths associated with flu and colds. It also will prove our reaction to virus has been excessive.


42 posted on 04/12/2020 6:18:52 PM PDT by Professional
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To: exDemMom

“The fact is that we are in flu season, and most of the illnesses have, in fact, been influenza”

There were “lots” of flu-like illnesses which tested negative for the influenzas. Would be nice to have hard numbers.


43 posted on 04/12/2020 6:26:34 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: glasseye

COVID-19 isn’t that bad if you’re a young person in shape. Look at NBA players, they caught COVID-19 but it was no big deal to them.


44 posted on 04/12/2020 6:30:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Moonlighter
And I’m going to withold.comment until some actual data comes in.

You clearly have very strong herd immunity! :)

45 posted on 04/12/2020 6:38:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yea some king of crap white in dec jan in las vegas.. the lady freadn and I bothered had it.. she went down hard for a week .. could not ever raise her head.. I was not as bad but has a dry racking Cough for over a month I could not get rid of... chest was super tight


46 posted on 04/12/2020 7:42:22 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yea some kind of crap back in dec jan in las vegas.. the lady friend and I both had it.. she went down hard for a week .. could not ever raise her head. Lose sence of taste..very strange.. I was not as bad but has a dry racking Cough for over a month I could not get rid of... chest was super tight


47 posted on 04/12/2020 7:44:17 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: Hojczyk

FWIW, I know someone in CA who suspects he had the ‘rona as early as Feb 2019.
Said he was feverish & coughed so hard he cracked a rib & thought it was bad flu. Self employed gig worker, no health insurance, so he just stayed home & eventually recovered.
Told him he should demand to get tested for antibodies.


48 posted on 04/12/2020 8:17:01 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: steve86
There were “lots” of flu-like illnesses which tested negative for the influenzas. Would be nice to have hard numbers.

There are so many influenza viruses floating around. Some of them do not test positive for influenza because the test only detects some of the more commonly circulating strains.

I used to keep track of influenza numbers. ILI (influenza like illness) was one of the categories tracked.

49 posted on 04/12/2020 8:20:00 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: tophat9000

Sorry to hear that. Hope everyone is back to normal now.


50 posted on 04/12/2020 8:31:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Hojczyk

Very likely.


51 posted on 04/12/2020 8:31:31 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: a real Sheila

There will be no test for the virus actually given widely nor will there be a test for the antibodies to the virus given widely.
The facts as they emerge will discredit the world health organization the CDC the Congress of the United States and the administrative branch of the federal government.
Yes they were lied to. Yes they believe the lies.

_— It’s just the flu.


52 posted on 04/12/2020 8:46:02 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they often use it)
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To: exDemMom

They do if your doctor Blix or Faust or however you say his. last name.

All flus are covid right now as that is the only option that Hillary and her cdc Hillary acolytes are currently selling.


53 posted on 04/12/2020 8:51:56 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they often use it)
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To: Professional
November, not December. Mark my words, will soon be proven.

I suspect November as well... maybe even October.

54 posted on 04/12/2020 8:55:40 PM PDT by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Professional

Ever since this became “THE NEWS PANIC STORY”, I have been telling my wife that this sh*t has been circulating since at least November and perhaps as early as mid October.

I had to go down south to Lakewood, Ca. for doctors appointments during the last week of October, by the time I got back to the farm up here I could hardly drive.
Sick as a dog for about 3 or 4 weeks (hell, even had to quit smoking for a time), finally started feeling better in mid December.

Still not at 100% but doing better every day.


55 posted on 04/13/2020 12:02:22 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: walkingdead

Hell, I probably brought it up here when I finished my doctors appointments down south.

Had to go to Downey, Ca, Lakewood, Ca. Longbeach, Ca.
All my primary doctors are down there.

Thought I was going to die on the drive back up but still had to stop in Redbluff and Redding for farm supplies and sundries.

Just hope I wasn’t playing “COVID-19 MIKE” for all the people in those towns!


56 posted on 04/13/2020 12:10:40 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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