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Goose Gossage slams everything baseball in ‘bulls–t’ rant
nypost.com ^ | 3/6/20 | Peter Botte

Posted on 03/06/2020 1:59:27 PM PST by a little elbow grease

( It’s like the Democrats are running baseball)

Goose Gossage doesn’t need to be welcomed at spring training to chime in on the sign-stealing scandal that has rocked baseball.

Gossage, who was banned as a Yankee spring instructor in 2018 for various criticisms of GM Brian Cashman and the team’s analytics department, offered his latest “Get off my lawn” rant this week, including what his response would be to the Astros’ cheating scheme to steal signs via electronics during the 2017 season.

“Guys used to steal signs all the time,” the Hall of Fame closer told the Tampa Bay Times. “Robin Yount and Paul Molitor were a couple of the best at stealing signs from second base, and [catcher Thurman] Munson comes out one day and says, ‘I think they’re stealing our signs.’

“I said, ‘Oh, OK.’ Munson runs back, he didn’t even say anything, we knew what to do. He called a breaking ball and I threw a fastball under Robin Yount’s chin, and I think he saw his life flash before his eyes.’’

Gossage, a member of the Yankees’ 1978 World Series championship team, also dusted off a few of his greatest hits, with shots at Cashman and the analytics craze that has taken over the game in recent years.

“These (stat-driven) workouts are all eyewash. It’s a bunch of bulls–t. It’s like the Democrats are running baseball,” Gossage said. “They’re trying to control something that is uncontrollable. And they’re taking all the beauty out of the game.

(snip) -- “Swinging for the fences, that uppercut (that’s so common), oh my God, if I pitched today they wouldn’t even sniff a ball.’’

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To: llevrok

Drysdale said something like “half the plate is mine and half is the batter’s—but he has to guess which half is his”. If the batter guessed wrong, he might get a little “chin music”.

Drysdale and Koufax were a force on the mound, back in the day.


81 posted on 03/06/2020 5:09:29 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: Equine1952

The photo of Nolan thumping Robin Ventura’s head is a very popular souvenir at the shops in Cooperstown.


82 posted on 03/06/2020 5:26:02 PM PST by MisterArtery
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To: a little elbow grease

When Winfield was with the Yanks and playing a game in Toronto, he hit a seagull with a throw from the outfield. The next time the Yankees were in Toronto there was a warrant for his arrest.


83 posted on 03/06/2020 5:34:05 PM PST by MisterArtery
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To: Equine1952

The photo of Nolan thumping Robin Ventura’s head is a very popular souvenir at the shops in Cooperstown.


84 posted on 03/06/2020 5:36:39 PM PST by MisterArtery
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To: MisterArtery
The photo of Nolan thumping Robin Ventura’s head is a very popular souvenir at the shops in Cooperstown.

Greatest moment in Texas Rangers history, well that, and the ball bouncing off of Canseco's head for a home run.

85 posted on 03/06/2020 5:38:04 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
... well that, and the ball bouncing off of Canseco's head for a home run.

So that explains it! I've read previously that Gibson's 1968 season (along with a lot of other great pitching that season) led to the mound be lowered by 6 inches. Anyone have insight on that?

86 posted on 03/06/2020 5:46:34 PM PST by Fury
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To: a little elbow grease

Ryan Duran brings a smile to my face, he with his coke bottle bottom glasses and 99mph fastball on the inside corner, that was baseball’s greatest years.


87 posted on 03/06/2020 5:54:36 PM PST by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up"can't be counted)
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To: newfreep

Gibson is needing all his toughness. He’s fighting pancreatic cancer.


88 posted on 03/06/2020 5:58:18 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (waiting for the tweets to hatch)
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To: Tucker39

Randy “The Big Unit” is also the one who splattered a flying bird as a fastball was on the way to the plate.


89 posted on 03/06/2020 6:09:43 PM PST by octex
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To: Hot Tabasco
You'd be surprised. I've seen guys with a lot of speed on the ball, but not quite
the control they needed.

Batters get intimidated by the speed, and go for the bad stuff allowing the guy to get by with not such good control.

Countless times I've seen a guy swing at one in the dirt, or up eye level, off the base by six inches...

90 posted on 03/06/2020 7:05:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Beware Hillary Clinton and the 25th Amendment.)
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To: macrahanish #1

I haven’t followed baseball in a long time.

I grew up living and breathing it.


91 posted on 03/06/2020 7:07:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Beware Hillary Clinton and the 25th Amendment.)
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To: octex

Yes. You’ve reminded me of it. I’d forgotten that. Feathers flew every direction. Thanks.


92 posted on 03/06/2020 8:56:55 PM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: macrahanish #1
Gossage is delusional in thinking he would dominate today. He’d still be good, but today’s pitchers are better, overall . The Pirates suck, and they have a pitcher, Blake Cederlind who has as much “stuff” as Gossage. It’s unlikely he will start the season in the majors.

Gossage threw mid to upper 90's fastballs in a time when that was rare, and few batters could handle them, true. I think he would still be a dominant reliever in today's game because he knew how to pitch. The difference between Blake Cederlind (or Geoff Hartlieb, etc.) and an effective major league pitcher with similar stuff is command and sequencing. Parker Markel that pitched for the Bucs last year had great stuff, but got lit up every time because he had no idea where it was going.

93 posted on 03/06/2020 9:03:11 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: a little elbow grease

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2016/03/pitchers-mound-get-introduced-baseball/


94 posted on 03/07/2020 12:17:57 AM PST by stuckincali
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To: JohnBovenmyer
He’s fighting pancreatic cancer.

No, he has Parkinson's disease....

95 posted on 03/07/2020 3:42:38 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: stuckincali; JonPreston
"Combined with a 1963 rule change that expanded the strike zone, pitchers began to dominate hitters once again to an extreme degree. In fact, 1968 is referred to as “The Year of the Pitcher,” because average run scoring per game per team that year was a scant 3.42, with a full 21% of the games ending in one of the teams getting shut out."

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Unfortunately my four years in college baseball were from 1964 through 1968. Oh well. I never saw Bob Gibson ...... then.

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Thanks for the details. I still think the game would be better WITHOUT A PITCHERS MOUND.

(Every time I see a courtroom scene on tv with a judge it reminds me of a pitcher's mound. ....... (same thing with some pharmacists.) ___

By the way, do you remember "the terrace" in right field in old Crosley Field in Cinci.? As the outfielder approached the wall, the ground began to incline toward the wall. Made it a little hairy for a fielder who was not used to it.

LOL

96 posted on 03/07/2020 3:51:58 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: cabbieguy

I think he came into the game to pitch in relief once, was warming up and threw one up on the screen behind home plate. Got the batter’s attention.


97 posted on 03/07/2020 4:04:41 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Google Bob Gibson pancreatic cancer. It was a big story in Omaha where he lives.


98 posted on 03/07/2020 9:07:12 AM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Mean Daddy

LOL! I only saw “Gibson” and automatically thought he was referring to Kirk Gibson of the Tigers......


99 posted on 03/07/2020 9:30:17 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: a little elbow grease

I live in wv. Twice our little league went to Crosley. Maybe 57 and 58. Sat in si deck for doubleheader’s.


100 posted on 03/07/2020 11:47:25 AM PST by stuckincali
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