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AT&T forcing thousands of American employees to train foreign replacements through H1B program
Breitbart ^ | 12/31/19 | John Binder

Posted on 12/31/2019 12:16:29 PM PST by david1292

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To: Wiser now

My husband was forced to do this in 2008 when a very well known information retreval and law library company decided to off shore it’s IT work. Then they forced him to retire. He was 62 and had worked there for 30+ years.
This kind of thing is nothing new.


Wait, you are saying since it happened to your husband, it is nothing new? Are you saying we should not care? If that is your position, I disagree...

I am glad your husband was 62 and worked at his job for 30+
years. Fortunately, he was only 3 years away from retirement, and I am guessing he got a decent severance package for 30 years of employment back in 2008...

Sadly there are Freepers in their 40s and 50s who have had to endure this...loaded with financial obligations, yet ripe for age discrimination and minimal severance packages...and they were not 3 years away from retirement. Not saying it was easy for you, but it can be much worse...

It is not new, but it is expanding in breadth and depth... rate of increase is increasing too...

This is a travesty, and it is destroying more and more middle class careers.


61 posted on 12/31/2019 3:48:39 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: RedMonqey
the tech came to update my router. He had to call the same service number customers use to call in an issue. He had to wait, just like the rest of us smucks, to have his issue resolved.

Yep, we'd get those calls.

62 posted on 12/31/2019 4:23:55 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Wiser now

Re: My husband was forced to do this in 2008 when a very well known information retreval and law library company decided to off shore it’s IT work. Then they forced him to retire. He was 62 and had worked there for 30+ years.
This kind of thing is nothing new.

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Sadly it wasn’t new back then. It was at least a decade or so in progress by 2008


63 posted on 12/31/2019 4:26:48 PM PST by khelus
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To: LeoWindhorse
This is America. NOT INDIA.

You forgot their leering at and coming on to any American woman they encounter, and their truly ripe body odor.

64 posted on 12/31/2019 4:29:53 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: central_va; Wiser now

Re: FYI: Offshoring and H-1B imports are different things.

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True

But H-1B’s are often used as on-site support to enable offshoring.


65 posted on 12/31/2019 4:34:56 PM PST by khelus
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To: EinNYC

Having traveled rather extensively in India twice I am well familiar with the vacuous stare. Without a hint of a smile, just this dull, mirthless look, assessing everything you are wearing I suppose. Nowadays, I am seeing almost the same thing from the tourist parents of obvious H1B recipients. And hardly a word of English, of course


66 posted on 12/31/2019 4:36:36 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: central_va; BobL

Re :I’m not crazy about it either, but it is one issue and the country can survive it.
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What a POS comment Bob. So we can just throw young Americans under the bus. We’ll survive. F that.

I just read a thread about Americans not having kids, THESE THINGS ARE RELATED BOB.

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AMEN.

Plus don’t forget H-1B’s are used for ALL STEM FIELDS.


67 posted on 12/31/2019 4:39:14 PM PST by khelus
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To: Dick Bachert

If we have to train them, they aren’t direct replacements and shouldn’t be in the country.


68 posted on 12/31/2019 5:12:52 PM PST by tbw2
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To: BuffaloJack
They only laid off Americans and kept all the Indians even though the Americans were more competent.

The upper management ghouls who pull these stunts fully intend to be elsewhere when the chickens come home to roost.

69 posted on 12/31/2019 5:17:33 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: david1292

When I’ve finally gotten through to an ATT customer rep; they are usually Filipino in the Philippines.. Since I’ve been there; we tend to talk a bit about their country and I get the customer support I need.

It’s always 100% wrong-headed to force workers to train their replacements then lay them off. The corporate world is heartless; almost satanic sometimes.


70 posted on 12/31/2019 5:22:29 PM PST by Boomer ('Democrat' is now synonymous with 'corrupt')
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To: heavy metal
+👍🏼
71 posted on 12/31/2019 6:39:37 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: SecondAmendment

I have worked with hundreds of Indians and I’d say 80% are future Democrats. Only problem is they are cheap and don’t like paying taxes so once they find what the Dims want to do with the money it starts them thinking. So actually 50% vote Democrat when they know the truth.

That said most don’t read US sources for news. They also like CNN.


72 posted on 12/31/2019 7:36:37 PM PST by DazedVet (Self esteem cannot be taught in school but comes from actual achievement.)
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To: RummyChick

It seems that the Indians place the inflection on the last syllable of every word. You get used to it after a while.


73 posted on 12/31/2019 7:56:59 PM PST by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: House Atreides

“Please don’t cast other FReepers’ arguments as something they are not.”

I’m open minded, how about you tell us who NOT voting straight-ticket Republican doesn’t enable Democrats, which is what I responded to?

Unless there’s a viable political party that I’ve never heard of, it’s difficult to imagine anything OTHER than enabling Democrats by not voting Republican in November elections.

But, as I said, I’m open-minded = please enlighten me.


74 posted on 01/01/2020 2:50:13 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: BobL

But, as I said, I’m open-minded = please enlighten me.
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Well, you’re certainly not TOO open minded. Otherwise you would not engage in your strange DEFLECTION.. This thread is about the H-1B visa program and is certainly not about not voting for Republican candidates.

The H-1B program is NOT good for America and is NOT good for Americans. Many things the Chamber of Commerce wants are NOT good for America.


75 posted on 01/01/2020 9:07:16 AM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: House Atreides

Actually I was responding to THIS COMMENT (go see for yourself):

““You could lop 90% of them into the same party, so what difference does it make?””

To put it another way, the election is TOO IMPORTANT to me to let “they’re all the same, so why bother voting” type comments slide, and in some cases, they’re flat-out trolling (which they now call “Rolcon”)


76 posted on 01/01/2020 10:10:16 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: indthkr
It may have been fashionable with certain academics, but human equality as a basis for business decisions is still totally flawed as a concept. No two people reading this are really, interchangeable or equal. The very concept is an insult to every one of us, as it fores a form of ignorance of all that can make any individual unique in a positive sense.

Greatest Mischief

How The Left Keeps Minorities Dependent

77 posted on 01/02/2020 9:33:12 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: spudville
Your job loss may well have been the result of the false assumptions promoted by egalitarian make believe; but both employers & employees are victims of the make believe absurdity foisted on society by academic theorists. The damage used to be contained by the forces of traditional social cohesion; but these forces are now specifically targetted.

Myths & Myth Makers In American "Higher" Education

No one but demagogues & scoundrels benefits from the deliberate misdirection perpetrated in academia by compulsion driven theorists..

78 posted on 01/02/2020 9:50:55 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: SecondAmendment
Forcing an existing employee to train their H1-B replacement is prima facie proof their employer is violating the law.

Exactly.

Having people already in the job to train their replacements is proof that there are already qualified Americans who can do the work, which makes hiring a H-1B worker for that job illegal.

In fact, the American incumbent is, by definition, MORE qualified since the H-1B worker requires training. Proper use of the H-1B program would dictate that the worker already has the required skills and can step into the role immediately until qualified Americans can be found.

-PJ

79 posted on 01/02/2020 10:31:01 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: david1292

ultimately this is Congress..NOT PDJT..and all you need to know is that there is no prohibition against insider trading for congresscritters

primo example of exactly why

Congress would LOVE to jam this into the Prezzy’s lap..


80 posted on 01/11/2020 4:52:58 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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