Live Thread - Impeachment Inquiry Hearings 11/21/2019

PBS ^ | November 21, 2019

[maggief]

Fiona Hill, former National Security Council senior director for Europe and Russia, will testify before the House Intelligence Committee on Thursday, Nov. 21, in the impeachment probe into President Donald Trump. Hill told lawmakers in closed-door testimony last month that then-national security adviser John Bolton expressed concerns that the Trump administration was trying to pressure Ukrainian officials. The focus of the impeachment inquiry is a July 25 phone call in which Trump asked Ukraine's president to investigate 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden.

[shelterguy]

When does the clown show resume?

[God luvs America]

voting for what?

[JonPreston]

Holmes also stated that he asked Sondland what Trump said. So why did he have to ask, if he already heard it?

Since the phone call was no doubt privileged, Holmes should be asked if Sondland shared the content with him.

[Openurmind]

Only to the intelligent and objective. Unfortunately the majority are not intelligent or objective, so by the time this stuff comes out they have all ready formed an opinion and it is too late to change it. It becomes locked on a “wrong” opinion fact or not.

[McGavin999]

You have no idea what he is doing or why. I don’t think President Trump is a fool, so I think there is a lot going on and things are about to come to a head.

I keep hearing that Crowdstrike has been debunked. If that is so, then the DNC server has to be somewhere in the FBI vaults, right?

[caww]

I don't see Rudy as a loose cannon at all....rather the bureaucrats ( now witnesses) in Ukraine were all fearful and disgruntled that he was operating outside their loops.... and they knew well the 'blow up' would THEIR 'stranglehold' on Ukraines polices and those who they enabled all the corruption in business and investments including the Bidens, Kerry, Pelosi, Romney, Soros and others using Ukraine as a money laundering machine to funnel huge amounts of money thru the government and other entities.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“Makes you wonder how this can ever be corrected. And I would imagine that each department has plenty of employees with the same outlook. I can’t even begin to imagine how this can be dismantled and reassembled properly.”

Since all of these employees have TS clearance, recall every one of them and polygraph them. Those who are guilty of something will resign prior to the polygraph. Those that don’t, excuse them.

[smvoice]

Something that will $©Г€w the taxpayer, I'm sure

[ought-six]

“When does the clown show resume?”

There are votes on the House floor on other, unrelated matters. Fox just now said that the hearing may resume in 30 minutes. Time enough to grab a bite to eat.

[pnut22]

Doesn’t really matter. Just an excuse to call a recess at that crucial time. Nunes called out SCIF on his run for the CNN mike yesterday.

[maggief]

Giuliani mentions Greenaway.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435906-us-embassy-pressed-ukraine-to-drop-probe-of-george-soros-group-during-2016

US Embassy pressed Ukraine to drop probe of George Soros group during 2016 election

BY JOHN SOLOMON
03/26/19

While the 2016 presidential race was raging in America, Ukrainian prosecutors ran into some unexpectedly strong headwinds as they pursued an investigation into the activities of a nonprofit in their homeland known as the Anti-Corruption Action Centre (AntAC).

The focus on AntAC — whose youthful street activists famously wore “Ukraine F*&k Corruption” T-shirts — was part of a larger probe by Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s Office into whether $4.4 million in U.S. funds to fight corruption inside the former Soviet republic had been improperly diverted.

The prosecutors soon would learn the resistance they faced was blowing directly from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, where the Obama administration took the rare step of trying to press the Ukrainian government to back off its investigation of both the U.S. aid and the group.

“The investigation into the Anti-Corruption Action Center (sic), based on the assistance they have received from us, is similarly misplaced,” then-embassy Charge d’ Affaires George Kent wrote the prosecutor’s office in April 2016 in a letter that also argued U.S. officials had no concerns about how the U.S. aid had been spent.

At the time, the nation’s prosecutor general had just been fired, under pressure from the United States, and a permanent replacement had not been named.

A few months later, Yuri Lutsenko, widely regarded as a hero in the West for spending two years in prison after fighting Russian aggression in his country, was named prosecutor general and invited to meet new U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

Lutsenko told me he was stunned when the ambassador “gave me a list of people whom we should not prosecute.” The list included a founder of the AntAC group and two members of Parliament who vocally supported the group’s anti-corruption reform agenda, according to a source directly familiar with the meeting.

It turns out the group that Ukrainian law enforcement was probing was co-funded by the Obama administration and liberal mega-donor George Soros. And it was collaborating with the FBI agents investigating then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s business activities with pro-Russian figures in Ukraine.

The implied message to Ukraine’s prosecutors was clear: Don’t target AntAC in the middle of an America presidential election in which Soros was backing Hillary Clinton to succeed another Soros favorite, Barack Obama, Ukrainian officials said.

(snip)

The U.S.-Soros collaboration was visible in Kiev. Several senior Department of Justice (DOJ) officials and FBI agents appeared in pictures as participants or attendees at Soros-sponsored events and conferences.

One attendee was Karen Greenaway, then the FBI supervisor in charge of international fraud cases and one of the lead agents in the Manafort investigation in Ukraine. She attended multiple such events and won glowing praise in a social media post from AntAC’s executive director.

In one event during 2016, Greenaway and Ambassador Yovanovitch participated alongside AntAC’s executive director, Daria Kaleniuk, and Lutsenko was present. The message was clear: The embassy supported AntAC.

The FBI confirmed Greenaway’s contacts with the Soros group, saying they were part of her investigative work: “In furtherance of the FBI’s mission and in the course of their duties, FBI employees routinely travel and participated in public forums in an official capacity. At a minimum, all such travel and speaking engagements are authorized by the employee’s direct supervisor and can receive further authorization all the way up to the relevant division head, along with an ethics official determination.”

Greenaway recently retired, and Soros’s AntAC soon after announced she was joining its supervisory board.

[ought-six]

“You have no idea what he is doing or why. I don’t think President Trump is a fool, so I think there is a lot going on and things are about to come to a head. I keep hearing that Crowdstrike has been debunked. If that is so, then the DNC server has to be somewhere in the FBI vaults, right?”

Trump is certainly NOT a fool. As for Crowdstrike, I have no idea what the deal is with that, as I’ve read conflicting opinions on what is going on there. For instance, I’ve read that the server is in Ukraine.

[Brown Deer]

The Ukraine scandal timeline Democrats and their media allies don’t want America to see

For weeks now, Democratic members of Congress, career State Department and National Security Council experts and their allies in the media suggest questions about Joe Biden and a Ukrainian gas company and Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election were nothing more than debunked conspiracy theories.

In reality, the facts on both these issues are clearly substantiated. And as I pointed out last week, many of the witnesses that House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff called during the impeachment proceedings confirmed concerns about both.

Here is a detailed timeline of key events in the Ukraine scandal, complete with the corroborating evidence. You make your own judgement as to what happened.

[Lakeside Granny]

Great find, maggie.

Thanks for posting.

[maggief]

I’m leery of Beck, too, but following his informative Ukraine series. In this video, Giuliani is giving Beck important evidence.

[mewzilla]

Anyone know what Fiona Hill’s citizenship is?

[Jrabbit]

I highly doubt it.

[caww]

Of course she did...she was still following Obama’s directives. So as a deep state operative she would do so.

[caww]

Of course she did...she was still following Obama’s directives. So as a deep state operative she would do so.

[Openurmind]

I don’t at all think Crowdstrike has been debunked. If fact I will bet they are a huge part of Barr’s upcoming release.