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India going off the rails, China next (plastics ban)
Maritime Accidents Daily Report ^ | October 22, 2019 8:34 am | Mikhail Voytenko

Posted on 10/24/2019 9:02:29 AM PDT by robowombat

India going off the rails, China next Mikhail Voytenko News October 22, 2019 8:34 am

India decided to win a dubious, to say the least, title, of being the first country in the world to ban all plastics on board of all ships calling Indian ports, or transiting Indian waters, according to a document, sent to all ships of a major shipping company:

As from 01 Jan 2020 the following single use of plastics are prohibited to be use:

1) Bags, Trays, Containers, food packing film;

2) Milk Bottles, freeze bags, shampoo bottles, ice cream containers;

3) Bottes for water and other drinks, dispensing containers for cleaning fluids; biscuit trays;

4) Hot drink cups, insulated food packing, protective packing for fragile items;

5) Microwave dishes, ice cram tubs, potato chip bags, bottle caps Items prohibited with immediate effect as from 16 October 2019:

1) Cultery , Plates and cups;

2) Up to 10 Litres bottles for water and other drinks;

3) Garbage and shopping Bags, and

4) Dispensing Containers for cleaning fluids which are less Thank 10 Litres volume

Crews are required to:

Store all banned items during Port calls.

Plastic ban will be an item in PSC checks, with punishments, such as detention and/or fine, not yet determined, but they’re sure to come, we all know the game.

China reportedly, is next in line.

What is it crews are supposed to do? How to survive Indian ports and waters? Don’t eat, don’t drink, don’t visit toilets, don’t produce any wastes? Well, container ships and tankers may manage that, providing call lasts no more than 24 hours, what about others? It’s insane, people. It’s absolutely insane.

Never did I watch or read about, such explicit disdain and hatred towards us common people, demonstrated by elites – all of them, national or international. They don’t hide it anymore. What should happen for nations (and industries) to wake up, and compel them to do something, at least not to vote for hostile aliens?


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1 posted on 10/24/2019 9:02:29 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Elites rule, deplorables drool—everywhere.


2 posted on 10/24/2019 9:04:32 AM PDT by cgbg (Vote Trump or you will _be_ Trump)
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To: robowombat

who’d a thunk a 10 year old boy making up statistics could change the world.


3 posted on 10/24/2019 9:05:47 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: robowombat

Shipping in India is going to be very expensive.

But I suspect the plastic trash still flows in its rivers.


4 posted on 10/24/2019 9:06:23 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: teeman8r

Ignorance is Bliss..


5 posted on 10/24/2019 9:06:36 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (CNN Is fake news)
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Governments virtue signalling.
Moreover governments who couldn’t give a crap about their own back yard. Their own people. The rest of the world.
Total bullshit!


6 posted on 10/24/2019 9:09:48 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: robowombat

-—sounds great to me—

-it’s about time India and China stopped being the biggest polluters of the oceans in the world—


7 posted on 10/24/2019 9:10:55 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the meda or government sayabout firearms or explosives--)
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To: robowombat
India cleaning up their act on plastics is long overdue. This is a very minor step. They need to do much more. Slobs.

95% of river-borne plastic polluting the world's oceans comes from just TEN rivers including the Ganges and Niger

8 posted on 10/24/2019 9:16:10 AM PDT by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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Think of the replacements for the plastic items that will go into use on the ships, and then consider that cruise ships already often have problems with communicable diseases among the passengers.

And, the ban ignores the latest science on the breakdown in plastics by natural forces, both on land and in the seas. That breakdown is more common and much faster than earlier claims said it was.

Sun, the waves, and the sun+water over time tear the plastic apart, turning most of it into tiny pieces that microbes devour. Microbes eventually consume the plastic in the ground, taking sometimes only decades or centuries, and not the 1,000+ years previously thought to be the case. The microbes turn the plastic into what they can use of it and release carbon dioxide and carbon back to the earth.


9 posted on 10/24/2019 9:31:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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The alternatives are glass, metal, and paper...all of which require more fossil fuels to make than plastics, plus the additional weight.


10 posted on 10/24/2019 9:44:09 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: American in Israel
...the plastic trash still flows in its rivers.

I know there is a video or two of that bucolic vision but this message:

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blocks the path to the quick and easy resource.

Ahhh, the power and control of technocrats. It does warm the heart.

11 posted on 10/24/2019 9:46:26 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: kaktuskid

We need to cut down the rain forests and use the wood to make trays, cups, dishes and other essential items needed on ships.


12 posted on 10/24/2019 9:51:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: robowombat

Cool. More plastic for us!


13 posted on 10/24/2019 10:01:49 AM PDT by KobraKai
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Plastic is a petroleum product.

Futhermore Plastics can be reconstituted back into liquid petroleum.

I know, I’ve seen it on the internet.

But if it is true that Plastics can be reconstituted back into liquid petroleum then I wonder how much energy is needed to reconstitute. Or if you can reconstitute enough plastic into fuel... the fuel that is reconstituted could be an energy source for reconstituting a lot more plastic back into petroleum fuel.

If it is indeed true that this procedure can be done. But there seems to be a lot of video out there demonstrating the fact, and in some third world rural areas it’s quite common.

Farmers back in the twenties make their own alcohol to run their Model-Ts and farm equipment. Henry Ford and Company developed carburetors that could burn both gasoline and alcohol, with a throw of a lever on the carburetor.


14 posted on 10/24/2019 10:29:41 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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No problem. Who would ever want to go to that cesspool... literally... where they $h1t it in the rivers they “bathe” in?


15 posted on 10/24/2019 10:32:16 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: robowombat

Microplastics in the oceans waters have been around for millions of years. Just look at ice core samples pulled from glaciers in Antarctica. I’m pretty sure that it is natural in origin and not from anything man has done.


16 posted on 10/24/2019 10:33:29 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: kaktuskid

“The alternatives are glass, metal, and paper...all of which require more fossil fuels to make than plastics, plus the additional weight.”

Actually making new glass from ground up glass takes less energy than brand new glass. And as far as ability to re-sterilize a container, glass is far superior to any plastic, as most plastics cannot be heated to the temps needed for most sterilization processes - which is why all the plastic pill bottles are useless as far as being reused for pills again.

Yes glass weighs more. But where its as a container is limited by distance - as it used to be with the local dairy - its infinite ability to be reused, again and again, for the same purpose may be less of a total-energy expense than plastics. You have the extra transportation-fuel expense and the sterilization energy expense minus what would otherwise be the cost of buying new bottles all the time.

But throwing away glass makes it a non-biodegraded material in a landfill longer than just about anything else - 1 million years. If there is anything that ought to be reused or recycled (ground up and made into new glass) it is glass.


17 posted on 10/24/2019 10:36:36 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: robowombat

Google “polluted Indian rivers” People in India are downright slobs. Trash everywhere.

No wonder the gov’t is doing this.


18 posted on 10/24/2019 10:38:21 AM PDT by setter
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River of garbage. Pigs won’t even clean up after themselves. Some cultures need culled from the Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmryr65iTwM


19 posted on 10/24/2019 10:43:15 AM PDT by setter
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To: robowombat

I saw “The Graduate” and plastic was a huge breakthrough and a great investment.


20 posted on 10/24/2019 10:58:27 AM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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