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Department of Energy Rolls Back Obama-Era Lightbulb Rules
pjmedia.com ^ | 9/4/2019 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/05/2019 2:34:46 PM PDT by rktman

In a clear victory for consumer choice, the Trump administration's Department of Energy rolled back Obama-era rules that mandated the use of LED light bulbs.

The Hill:

DOE argued its rule will have little impact given the increasing demand for LED bulbs, which use less electricity than many other types.

“This rule does not prevent consumers from buying the lamps they desire, including efficient options,” the agency wrote in the rule. “The market is successfully transitioning to LEDs regardless of government regulation. Consumers are clearly taking advantage of the energy savings provided by LEDs.”

A senior DOE official told reporters that “concerns may be overstated” and the new rule would not have a large impact on the market.

“This regulation gives consumers more choices, and consumers are better off with more choices,” he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abushlaw; climalarky; dimbulbs; ecocrazy; lightbulbs
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To: Roccus

One of my professors called them “heat bulbs”.

Hey, it works.

I used them to keep my various apartment rooms warm. (where the circulated air was not as efficient in certain areas)

AND they provided light. That’s like crazy!


21 posted on 09/05/2019 2:53:35 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: grania
“I think it’s both the brightness and the warmth that are factors.”

Let me guess. You live somewhere in the northern US where for 9 months of the year waste heat from incandescent lightbulbs is a benefit. There is no way that a pinhead bureaucrat would accommodate that because to them lightbulbs create light and furnaces create heat.

22 posted on 09/05/2019 2:58:07 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: plain talk
I stockpiled incandescents, but the newer LEDs have a Kelvin range that are very close to incandescent.

I can see replacing those with low Kelvin LEDs when I run out.

The curly compact fluorescents just plain suck.

I hate them and will never have one in my house.

23 posted on 09/05/2019 2:58:13 PM PDT by boop ("I've always hated Nazis")
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To: rktman

Barack Obama. Jeffrey Immelt. White House visits. Incandescent ban. CFL mandated. GE: $0 Federal taxes in 2010 (as I recall).

The patent on incandescent bulbs had long since expired. CFL was protected by patent.

Immelt gave Obama support. Obama facilitated the ban.

That is fascism.


24 posted on 09/05/2019 3:00:46 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: rktman

My church saved $80,000 per year on the electric bill by relamping with LED’s. Government force is not needed when the economic impetus is there.


25 posted on 09/05/2019 3:00:49 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: rktman

I haven’t bought a regular bulb in years as I have a stockpile in the house.

On the other hand, some lights I have need long lasting LED bulbs. Some are good for 13 years! I found they only last as long as a regular 100 watt bulb.


26 posted on 09/05/2019 3:01:14 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: IndispensableDestiny
I don’t see myself buying incandescents again

Yeah, buying bulbs used to be a regular occurrence. Now I don't remember the last time I changed one other than the halogens under the kitchen cabinets. Which is why the lightbulb manufacturers pushed for this.

27 posted on 09/05/2019 3:01:15 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: rktman

Just glad we didn’t get stuck with those miserable CFLs.

I do wonder what Friedrich Hayek would say about this whole lightbulb thing, though. LEDs are superior to incandescents yet they probably wouldn’t have been developed if not for the government intervening. Nor do we seem to have suffered much in the way of unintended negative consequences. Is it possible the government’s coercive action has yielded a better net result than if it had stayed on the sidelines?


28 posted on 09/05/2019 3:03:02 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: boop

Yea, now that they have LEDs with various Kelvin ranges, I don’t mind them, the early ones were horrible, too cold and sterile for a home.


29 posted on 09/05/2019 3:03:30 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: TexasGator

I love them - last much longer than the “curly” bulbs.


30 posted on 09/05/2019 3:04:44 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: rktman

I buy LED’s because they run far cooler than indandescent, and the light with the GOOD ones is just as good if not better. I live in florida, and not only are you paying money to CREATE all that extra heat, you are paying more to REMOVE that heat. No thanks.
Not all LED bulbs are the same though, find one you like and stick with it. I prefer high CRI with a temp of about 3000k.


31 posted on 09/05/2019 3:06:49 PM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: rktman
Bush II signed the legislation in 2007 that started all this - and the idiots who wrote the bill left out industrial grade incandescent bulbs which last a really long time and are still available.
LEDs are nice, though - yet another benefit from the reverse engineering of recovered extraterrestrial technology.
32 posted on 09/05/2019 3:07:03 PM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

I like LEDs and most of my house has them. I opted for bulb life and energy savings by choice and not by mandate. I do not want government telling me I can not buy an incandescent light if I want it. I do have a few, but not many. As my CFL lights die they are replaced by LEDs. Wife person insists on incandescent on her makeup mirror. My bedside lamp is also incandescent. Everything else is LEDs or CFLs.


33 posted on 09/05/2019 3:07:33 PM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: SaveFerris
Does this mean Elaine will be able to use the E-Z Bake Oven again?

We have a drug warmer that uses incandescent bulbs, very similar to an Easy Bake oven. Getting the proper bulb over the last few years has been a pain in the ass.
34 posted on 09/05/2019 3:07:36 PM PDT by akalinin
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To: shotgun

I don’t know about LEDs but I read the book of info that comes with CFLs and your supposed to let them warm up for 15 minutes before you shut them off, or it kills their lifespan.


35 posted on 09/05/2019 3:07:51 PM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: shotgun

LED bulbs are rated in hrs of life. Usually about 20,000. Even if you left the bulb on 24/7 for 6 months it amounts to just 4300 hrs.

I’ve had LED for yrs and just 2 have failed and they were replaced at no charge by the mfg.

Yours is an interesting problem. Perhaps if you called the mfg of the bulb they can help you determine why the bulbs are failing so quickly.


36 posted on 09/05/2019 3:08:00 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Patriot Babe

Check this...

60-Watt Equivalent A19 Non-Dimmable LED Light Bulb Daylight (8-Pack) $9.94

https://www.homedepot.com/p/EcoSmart-60-Watt-Equivalent-A19-Non-Dimmable-LED-Light-Bulb-Soft-White-8-Pack-B7A19A60WUL18/303574541

The link is for the “soft white” which is between “warm white” and “daylight”

.


37 posted on 09/05/2019 3:09:57 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: shotgun

“Wait until you start replacing them more often. My house was built in 1984 and these LED bulbs last about 4-6 months.”

ROTFLMAO! My whole house is LED and I have NEVER had to replace any. They range in age from six months to four years.


38 posted on 09/05/2019 3:10:12 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: boop

The CFLs have mercury, too.


39 posted on 09/05/2019 3:10:38 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Dr. Sivana

“For certain applications (vanity mirror bulbs, some can lights, some flood lamps) it is not easy to find an LED that has both the right shape and brightness.”

Have you been to Lowes or HD lately?


40 posted on 09/05/2019 3:11:58 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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