Posted on 07/30/2019 9:12:15 PM PDT by cba123
Kriggrel is the only one here who brought up Taiwan. This is serious enough to the Chicoms that should this trigger more protests throughout the country Xi may choose to go for broke as his entire rule may be threatened. Remember the Generals and the falklands?
Yes, and they have been making further improvements.
Yes. Taiwan is a separate country that survived the partitican by Mao.
HK was to have a 50-year period of adjustment into China. The Corrupt Crown and International Banking went along in the belief that China’s entry into the WTO would bring her into a world where free trade was the guiding principle for peace and prosperity.
Deflect from the internal Chinese bad news cycle of poor economic performance. Swallow up HK and your GDP for internal consumption immediately jumps wiping out the poor economic performance.
Only if the world immediately protests by recalling the Ambassadors and breaking diplomatic relations will the force on the border be stopped.
Halting trade in ports, sending backs ship enroute, and stopping all Chicom shipping headed to western ports might be the appropriate message.
If we are to continue to do business with a county and philosophy that killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined, then we are accessory to the continued murderous one party system in China and it really doesn’t matter when War starts because War happens when Laws no longer work.
[Was stupid then and it is now.]
yep
“Trump government’d better not to get involved in China’s sovereignty issue.”
Says who, you? The Chinese have involved themselves in out politics and we are entirely in the right when we return the favor.
That, and the fact that it will be far more difficult for the ChiComs to control the images, videos and live streams coming out of HK to the point where even the Europeans might actually stand up straight and take notice.
The 99 year lease was not signed with the Revolutionary opposition forces of Chairman Mao, it was signed with the legitimate previous government of China.
The problem was when the revolutionaries were recognized and given ‘legitimacy.’ In our case it was the dumbass Jimmy Carter who extended formal recognition in 1979. The UK attempted to do so right after WW2 but it was rejected... I think they finally did it in 1950.
I suppose we could simply formally recognize Taiwan if the PRC gets violent with HK.
“I suppose we could simply formally recognize Taiwan if the PRC gets violent with HK.”
And then what?
...And then realise that that declaration carries the same weight and measure as a formal declaration of war against Mainland China, and be prepared to reap the whirlwind.
Unless the west is indeed prepared for WWIII, Taiwan’s reclamation by Mainland China is pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point, and the ChiComs know it.
“Once the UK recognized the PRC as the legitimate government of China, all treaties passed to them.”
No.
You’re known here as. a ChiCom propagandist.
The above is classic ChiCom party line.
The Joint Declaration was a new treaty between PRC and UK with international oversight.
Every nation in the world is a stakeholder.
And yes, “China could virtually cut the place off if they wanted”.
Leave it to you to cite communist barbarity as a reason for acquiescing to them.
“Hong Kong is not our problem. China is our enemy and we should treat it as such but this is an internal Chinese matter.”
Hong Kong has been our partner and ally longer than the PRC has existed.
When you say it iis an internal Chinese matter you are echoing the butchers of Beijing standard party line, which us sad and pathetic.
You (and the communists) are also wrong and you do not know or understand the treaty that “returned” Hong Kong to China.
“Xi Jinping is extremely intolerant and domineering.”
I agree with this.
But moreso, he is weak. There is a power vacuum. All the long marchers are dead.
Jiang and Hu were designated by Deng before he died.
Now it’s pure power struggle among a group who have no “Mandate of Heaven”.
They know it and so does everyone in China.
It's kill the chicken to scare the monkeys
杀鸡儆猴
In this case Hong Kong would be the chicken.
I still, though, can't believe they would or will massacre people in Hong Kong like in a Beijing in 1989.
It's pretty much impossible. Xi is not that stupid.
But military marshall law I can see.
Either way is wrong and violates joint agreement.
“sanctions on China after Tiananmen Square were mild, and business as usual”
Yes.
And even worse. Only a month after, Bush secretly sent Brent Scowcroft and Lawrence Eagleburger to Beijing to assure Li Peng everything was fine and to ignore the public pronouncements condemning the massacre.
True scum.
“suppose, in a western way of thinking, there isn’t any reason for China to send troops. But this is China”
That’s the tub.
The whole point if the protests is Hong Kongers saying it is not China.
When they send in the tanks and slaughter any dissent Trump will lower the boom and demand the Eurotrash follow suit putting the screws to the chicoms.
“Hong Kong Independence was possible when the Brits gave it back. Not now. Was stupid then and it is now.”
Yes.
It still is.
PRC have breached the agreement. It’s an international treaty.
People act as if Hong Kongers aren’t people and have no rights and as if the agreement for PRC to have responsibility for protecting Hong Kong is some sort of divine decree.
It wasn’t.
If a party breaches, the agreement becomes void.
Creepy comment, man.
Really puts you in a bad light.
By the way, VanDeKoik is a ChiCom propagandist.
You can understand everything he says when knowing that.
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