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N.J. stores & restaurants must accept cash under new law banning them from requiring credit card
NJ.com Advanced Media ^ | March 18, 2019

Posted on 03/18/2019 5:33:12 PM PDT by SMGFan

New Jersey just stopped the move toward cashless commerce in the Garden State dead in its tracks.

Gov. Phil Murphy on Monday signed a bill into law requiring most stores and restaurants in the state to accept cash at their brick-and-mortar locations, making New Jersey only the second state to bar businesses from refusing to accept legal tender.

Businesses like cashless payments for the ease of transaction, but experts say cashless businesses disenfranchise consumers who can’t access bank or credit cards.

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To: hanamizu

This is true except for the fact that you have taken possession of the items in your shopping cart and owe a dept to the store for their value. You have also taken possession of the meal you just ate with the implied promise that you will pay the debt of the value of the meal once you have consumed it. This is why it isn’t the same for online shopping.


21 posted on 03/18/2019 7:43:43 PM PDT by gtwizard (Income Inequality is called INCENTIVE!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Dare I say ... Second Amendment!


22 posted on 03/18/2019 7:47:07 PM PDT by gtwizard (Income Inequality is called INCENTIVE!)
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To: gtwizard

Anyone with the money can get a prepaid Visa, MasterCard, etc. at virtually any grocery store. Though technically “gift” cards you make a purchase the same as with a credit card. They even say, right on the card, “Cashier, run as credit card.”


23 posted on 03/18/2019 7:47:24 PM PDT by Do_Tar (Holding My Privilege. Checking My Skirt. Now What?)
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To: SMGFan

They got to the right place (preventing easy government tracking of behaviors...otherwise known as a ‘social credit’ score), but for the wrong reasons - to make Illegals that much more comfortable.

Still, I’m good with the outcome.


24 posted on 03/18/2019 8:45:27 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: gtwizard

This is true except for the fact that you have taken possession of the items in your shopping cart and owe a dept to the store for their value.


The things in your cart aren’t yours, they still belong to the store. If the store refuses your cash, you have to leave the stuff in your cart behind (unless you’re a walmart shoplifter and roll out without paying).

Now, the meal you’ve eaten at the restaurant might well be different. You’ve eaten the meal and do, in fact, owe a debt to the restaurant. “All debts, public and private...” it says on FR Notes. So they have to take the cash. I believe that if they refuse the cash, the debt is cancelled. (But I don’t know that for sure).


25 posted on 03/18/2019 8:57:03 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: lquist1
Ah, I see now. Thank you for the inside information.

You wrote: "I’m focused on trying to buck the cashless trend by setting up merchants on a cash discount program. It is now legal for merchants to offer this program, which basically incentivizes customers to pay cash by charging a 3.99% service fee on all credit card purchases."

I've come across some businesses that do charge extra if you pay with a card. For example, some gas stations charge more $$ per gallon if you pay with a card. A few small businesses do it, too. And, yes, as a customer, I do view it more as a discount for paying in cash than as a penalty for paying with a card.

26 posted on 03/18/2019 9:04:42 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Keep fighting, Nick!)
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To: 5th MEB

but who in this country CAN’T get a credit card, or for that matter a Bank Card.


The same folks that can’t figure out how to get a ID to vote. This topic is racist.


27 posted on 03/18/2019 9:19:57 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: SuperLuminal

“Make customers pay with gold or silver instead of valueless paper.../s”

The Constitution is pretty clear on that, actually.

L


28 posted on 03/18/2019 9:24:25 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending it is.)
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To: Do_Tar
So let me get this straight ... You are supposed to go into a store and pay cash for a visa card (which charges you a fee for the privilege) so that you can use the debit "gift" card to purchase everything else??

Oh I can hear you now ... NO you idiot you go to a DIFFERENT store to buy your "gift" card (and pay a fee for the privilege) and THEN go to the store that won't take cash where it's apparently now legal to charge you a "credit card" service fee.

29 posted on 03/18/2019 10:22:09 PM PDT by gtwizard (Income Inequality is called INCENTIVE!)
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To: hanamizu
Wow classist much?? "Walmart Shoplifter" why not Neiman Markus? Why not Whole Foods? Why not Bergdorf? You only assume Walmart shoppers can be shoplifters?? WOW!

None the less, Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," states: "United States coins and currency [including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues."

This statute means that all United States money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise.

Check your state laws ...

30 posted on 03/18/2019 10:33:37 PM PDT by gtwizard (Income Inequality is called INCENTIVE!)
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To: 5th MEB

To answer your question, let’s start with teenagers, (or even children). They can’t get credit cards. Next, try an unemployed person, they aren’t going to qualify for a card. The homeless would not qualify for a credit card, also those with a bankruptcy will have a hard time getting a credit card. Someone working at a minimum wage job will also find it hard to get a credit card. There are so many people who can’t qualify for a credit card but also those that have had their bank account closed because they could not balance their account too many times, (bad checks, etc.). Cashless is a bad idea for any walk-in type of business but is possibly illegal.


31 posted on 03/18/2019 11:31:14 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: SMGFan

But they will accept Pesos.................


32 posted on 03/18/2019 11:33:03 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: SMGFan

The reasons for a cashless society is control, cash is freedom and cash can also be hidden from those who want it for their redistribution programs


33 posted on 03/19/2019 2:59:22 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: 5th MEB

Now there are all those preloaded cards too. They’re accepted anywhere and everywhere because they’re just a debit card. Even if you can’t get a bank account you can get a debit card now. Brinks has been advertising their card heavily. It works just like a bank. Your check can be auto deposited to it and you can go online and pay bills with it. There’s absolutely no reason for anyone not to have a card now.


34 posted on 03/19/2019 6:30:02 AM PDT by sheana
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To: gtwizard

Wow classist much?? “Walmart Shoplifter”


No, I wasn’t being ‘classist’. I was merely referring to the Walmart policy that shoplifters are not to be touched as they leave the store with a cart full of unpaid for merchandise. They do seem to have a problem with shoplifters, that’s all.

And your citation proves the point I was making—currency is legal tender for debt, not necessarily for purchases. The government has to accept it for all purposes, however.

As an interesting side note, the original Greenbacks issued during the Civil War specifically excluded them from payment for tariffs.


35 posted on 03/19/2019 6:48:16 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Tired of Taxes

“I’ve come across some businesses that do charge extra if you pay with a card. For example, some gas stations charge more $$ per gallon if you pay with a card. A few small businesses do it, too. And, yes, as a customer, I do view it more as a discount for paying in cash than as a penalty for paying with a card.”

Yeah cash discounting is starting to gain traction, but as of now, less than 5% of small businesses are doing it. I think you’ll see it more and more in the next few years. Of course, Visa/MC don’t like it, and they are trying to put up hurdles for companies like ours who offer it. But at the end of the day, the law is on our side - for now anyway.


36 posted on 03/19/2019 7:59:34 AM PDT by lquist1
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To: kaehurowing

Allegiant Airlines won’t accept cash on board. Only debit and credit cards.


37 posted on 03/19/2019 8:01:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Jeremiah 1:5 - "Before I formed thee ... I knew thee.")
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To: SMGFan

I’ve never been refused cash for a purchase, although a car rental did require a credit card on file when I paid cash.


38 posted on 03/19/2019 1:25:45 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SMGFan

Laws like this are extremely important. There’s a huge push for a cashless society. That would mean that you could be tracked and spied on through your transactions, the gov could take out taxes automatically, and banks/credit cards could get nastier than they already are with fees and taking a percent of every transaction.


39 posted on 03/19/2019 1:29:18 PM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: P-Marlowe

And some businesses will give you a discount if you pay by cash or check on the day of the transaction. You have to ask, though.


40 posted on 03/19/2019 1:32:13 PM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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