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EPA pushes forward plan to increase ethanol mix in gasoline
The Hill ^ | 03/12/19 03:19 PM EDT | MIRANDA GREEN

Posted on 03/12/2019 6:33:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
No, thank you very much!
21 posted on 03/12/2019 7:02:56 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Previously, E15 was restricted under air pollution requirements between June 1 and Sept. 15, as science shows burning ethanol in warmer temperature leads to heightened ground-level ozone pollution and smog.

Hmm - they've been trying to push that E85 crap for around a decade now - and yet I can't recall ever hearing that it was similarly restricted.

Back in 2014 or so, the talk was that E15 was going to be offered alongside E10, and recommended only for newer cars (I forget the model year threshold). Now it seems that they intend to blend it all at the higher ethanol content.

22 posted on 03/12/2019 7:05:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"...as science shows burning ethanol in warmer temperature leads to heightened ground-level ozone pollution and smog"

We have been saying that here for well over a decade. Ethanol is dirty compared to gasoline.

23 posted on 03/12/2019 7:13:01 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

No, they don’t like it. Ethanol eats the rubber seals, unless they are newly engineered elastomers. Also, the higher the ethanol content, the higher the propensity to form gooey gels which clog carburetors and require a teardown/cleanout. Gas treatments help, but don’t provide 100% protection.


24 posted on 03/12/2019 7:14:39 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Someone needs to explain to the President the stupidity of burning corn in your gas tank.


25 posted on 03/12/2019 7:16:23 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yep.

Increases in ethanol supply have outpaced increases in domestic demand for the last few years.

“Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”

-Ronald Regan


26 posted on 03/12/2019 7:22:37 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bad for classic cars too. Gas additive industry will also benefit


27 posted on 03/12/2019 7:24:10 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

this is NOT what I want.


28 posted on 03/12/2019 7:33:53 PM PDT by guyman
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To: Ben Hecks

Ethanol only makes fiscal sense for as long as it is subsidized. It makes no sense whatsoever from a net energy “savings”, as the cost of actually processing fuel-grade ethanol per BTU produced exceeds straight unleaded gasoline by a good margin. Ethanol has a LOWER total amount of BTU’s per gallon than gasoline, requiring a GREATER amount to extract the same energy.

Henry Ford, a great apostle of mechanizing the American farm industry, was very positive about the virtues of pure, or at least high-content ethanol mixes as “home-grown” fuel sources for spark-ignition internal combustion engines, much like the horses the gasoline engine replaced could be fed year-around with home-grown hay and oats. But perhaps the years of anti-alcohol agitation, which culminated in the Prohibition experiment, took all the practical aspects of ethanol production off the table. For a number of years, it was simply illegal to distill alcohol from fermented grains.


29 posted on 03/12/2019 7:34:46 PM PDT by alloysteel (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist. George Carlin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I despise ethanol.

Corn is for eating (and drinking!) not refining and burning.

BUT....

This should smooth out the spring and early fall gas price runups always blamed on “switching to summer production” and vice versa.

And if you believe that I have some waterfront property in Florida that might interest you.


30 posted on 03/12/2019 7:35:59 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My 2013 Honda Pilot needs E10 and will run poorly on E15. Pushing E15 will be hard on a lot of not very old cars on the road and be death to older cars and all those small engine mowers, trimmers, snow blowers and chainsaws in your garage. I drive 30+ miles to get no ethanol premium gas for all the small engine machines I own as even E10 is hard on these products.


31 posted on 03/12/2019 7:36:50 PM PDT by RicocheT (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Love my Prez, but he is being given the wrong advice here.

I understand you had better get the Farmers on your side come Election time, but Gasoline is best served pure as the driven snow.


32 posted on 03/12/2019 7:39:04 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If I wanted transport powered by grain I would buy a horse.


33 posted on 03/12/2019 7:42:50 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Uh, no thanks.


34 posted on 03/12/2019 7:50:45 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

MTBE worked out well... not.
My diesel fuel injector pump worked well until CA removed lubricants.
What’s next?


35 posted on 03/12/2019 7:54:18 PM PDT by sasquatch ( when)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Border wall progress and support minuscule...We're so screwed...

Illegal aliens sucking up welfare and voting...We're so screwed...

Bushite #neverTrumpers & deep-staters still getting important administration positions...We're so screwed...

EPA running amok...We're so screwed...

State Department still hasn't been flushed of any of the communists that have controlled it since FDR...We're so screwed...

We are always getting screwed but never getting kissed or a cup of coffee...

36 posted on 03/12/2019 7:55:11 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: Bryan24

Well, we could just let Warren or some other communist promise corn gas to some of the key states and then lose our whole country forever. Or we can let Trump do the things he needs to secure votes in key states. None of us like this but we must realize it is needed to win. People that live and die by corn gas will vote for whoever butters their bread.


37 posted on 03/12/2019 8:13:32 PM PDT by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First!)
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To: alloysteel

I think I have read that it takes 4 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol. That in itself negates a lot of any benefits of ethanol

I’m hoping that the rules “allow” ethanol 15 but also allow stations to sell fuel without ethanol.....let the public make the choice.

In my world, ethanol and daylight savings time both are categorized as stupid ideas.


38 posted on 03/12/2019 8:15:07 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Revel

I agree.


39 posted on 03/12/2019 8:16:24 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


40 posted on 03/12/2019 8:18:52 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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