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1 posted on 11/20/2018 3:36:32 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Okay, the act is grotesque and every state should ban it.

That being said, the judge is right in saying that using the commerce clause to regulate a (disgusting) medical procedure is a bridge too far.


36 posted on 11/20/2018 4:27:25 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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So Gay Conversion Therapy can be outlawed, but not this. Hmmm...….


38 posted on 11/20/2018 4:30:05 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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I know nothing about the FGM procedure/practice but it sounds horrible. However, I worry that laws against it will be used to criminalize circumcision.(which I’m sure the antisemitic/anti God left would love to do) If it is inherently different, I’d love to hear.


39 posted on 11/20/2018 4:32:40 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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You know what's really ironic about this horrorshow? If this thing gets to the Supreme Court, the argument that barbaric FGM does not substantially affect interstate commerce could be used to either overturn Wickard v. Filburn or substantially narrow its scope.

So let's appeal this seemingly odious ruling all the way to SCOTUS and hope that it's upheld and used to gut Wickard v. Filburn or overturn it altogether.

In the meantime, Michiganders, why not get your own state law against FGM before the Moslems become to numerous to prevent its passage.

42 posted on 11/20/2018 4:50:46 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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That poor, tortured Commerce Clause. It’s about its abuse was reined back. But this case? Surely there must be better Constitutional grounds for outlawing that narbaric practice.


43 posted on 11/20/2018 4:51:38 PM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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I’m just stunned. Who knew the comerce clause still existed?


46 posted on 11/20/2018 5:00:33 PM PST by j. earl carter
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THEN GO BACK TO YOUR HELLHOLE IN THE EAST DAMNED you!!!
Dr. MYAzz...


48 posted on 11/20/2018 5:14:28 PM PST by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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there is a lot of confusion about this, made worse because the PC feminists and anthropologists support it blindly.

There are three levels of FGM:

the first, a simple slit, is equivalent to a dorsal slit type circumcision and causes no harm.

The second removes the clitoris and affects a woman's sex life and can cause urinary problems, but the harm is minimum

The third type removes everything outside, and causes pain with sex, and obstruction in labor. One of the reasons that fistulas are so common in parts of Africa, from obstructed labor.

And this predates Islam: Indeed, Mohamed knew he would upset people if he forbad it, so he said “just cut a little”. So one could argue only the first type is haram.

and I should note it is done in non Muslim populations.

Of course, in a world where pre teens are having their genitals cut for “gender dysphoria” it is hard to argue that you can't do this to girls.

It is done shortly before puberty, similar to male circumcision in Islam, not on infants.

So without finding what was being done, you don't know if the judge is crazy or if the docs were doing the minimal cut.

50 posted on 11/20/2018 5:26:39 PM PST by LadyDoc (Liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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Separate from this case, the “Commerce Clause” of the US Constitution has been badly abused by courts for decades, to insert the federal govt into so many areas that are not really to do with interstate commerce. SO the judge may be taking a very sensible position that should have been taken many times before, that the Commerce Clause should not be used to permit federal intervention in every imaginable circumstance.

But whether FGM is the right point to finally start pushing back on this trend, I don’t know. It is true that in our system criminal law should mainly be the province of state and local govt, with carefully defined exceptions.


53 posted on 11/20/2018 5:46:32 PM PST by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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we really require a hard, severe purge in this nation. very hard reset.


58 posted on 11/20/2018 6:21:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Barbarism masquerading as religion.


59 posted on 11/20/2018 6:32:20 PM PST by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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The judge is correct in this case.

If genital mutilation affects interstate commerce, then everything does, and the interstate commerce clause is meaningless.

There has to be a limit on the regulation the federal government can do under the commerce clause.

This should be entirely a state issue, unless the people involved crossed state lines in order to have the deed performed.

61 posted on 11/20/2018 6:56:24 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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That judge should be shot.

Every Muslim in our nation should denounce Shariah or be deported to wherever.

Convert to Western Civilization standards or GTFO of my home.


62 posted on 11/20/2018 7:04:23 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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Rewrite the law and charge her and anyone else under it, not the old laws which were just declared unconstitutional.

Then let a judge try to destroy them.

Time for American women to rise up against FGM and if the moslems don’t like it, let them go back home to their primitive mindset and caves.

Waiting for Streisand, Judd, Milano, Maddow, April Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Hironi, Elizabeth Phoney, and Rosie O’Donnell to start a nationwide campaign against FGM and to harass any judge who supports it “when it is good constitutional law”.


69 posted on 11/20/2018 10:20:07 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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What’s next, legalizing the murder of unborn babies?


70 posted on 11/20/2018 10:23:40 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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Published April 28, 2017

“Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Female genital mutilation and what we’re really talking about beneath the weasel words ‘genital cutting’”

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ayaan-hirsi-ali-female-genital-mutilation-and-what-were-really-talking-about-beneath-the-weasel-words-genital-cutting


71 posted on 11/21/2018 1:17:31 AM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Meprry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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Protecting the transgender crowd’s right to mutilate itself .....


72 posted on 11/21/2018 3:27:03 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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