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Bernie Sanders introduces the BEZOS Act
CNBC ^ | 9/5/18 | Jill Donofrio

Posted on 09/05/2018 12:03:49 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

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To: VanDeKoik
And fast food joints ought to pay $15 an hour or so

$10 or so would be a living wage for a full time employee. I'm assuming it might take two wage earners in a house in order to make ends meet. In areas of the country where the cost of living is high, yeah, they should get enough money to survive. In those areas, fast food should cost enough to reflect economic realities.

It's disingenuous to say "they can go elsewhere". As long as they have to compete with invader labor, businesses will be able to keep wages low. The other issue is bring a lot more higher-paying jobs back to the US. What has to end is access to cheap labor that undermines the US worker.

41 posted on 09/05/2018 1:05:37 PM PDT by grania (It's Them vs Us)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

A wage is generally computed on an hourly basis.

If the sweet spot for government benefits is say $20,000 for a worker, a wage of $10/hour means working 2,000 hours year.

If the sweet spot for government benefits is say $20,000 for a worker, a wage of $15/hour means working around 1,350 hours a year.

If the sweet spot for government benefits is say $20,000 for a worker, a wage of $20/hour means working around 1,000 hours a year.


42 posted on 09/05/2018 1:06:29 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: tcrlaf
defining "living wage"

I think Bernie Sanders is defining it as not being in need of government handouts.

43 posted on 09/05/2018 1:06:50 PM PDT by grania (It's Them vs Us)
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To: sparklite2

They could double employee wages and it would barley move the needle on prices.


44 posted on 09/05/2018 1:07:15 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Red Badger

No, they won’t!

He is a FReaking LIEberal! He is an untouchable Perfumed Prince!

The thing to do is to get the government out of the welfare warrior business, not penalize corporations for taking advantage of the stupid laws the Congress enacts and gullible Presidents sign!


45 posted on 09/05/2018 1:08:53 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Myrddin
Anytime an employee fails to provide more value than expense, you fire them. This law will result in lots of firing.

Ok fine. But somebody will do the work.

46 posted on 09/05/2018 1:09:07 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Government interference? Like the Chinese Government blocking our exports with huge tariffs while we let their crap in for free?


47 posted on 09/05/2018 1:10:39 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

“introduced legislation to tax corporations for every dollar that their low-wage workers receive in government health-care benefits or food stamps”

I suspect Amazon/Wal-Mart (and their shareholders) are already paying more in taxes than their workers are getting in government benefits.

Why should the existing taxes continue to be levied at existing rates if the new tax is imposed?


48 posted on 09/05/2018 1:11:50 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: grania
Workers with full-time jobs should make a living wage.

They do.

If you are working full time you are not eligible for government benefits unless you have children.

Most of these "cry in your coffee" stories are people who either do not work full time or they have children.

Why should they get a raise because they reproduced?

49 posted on 09/05/2018 1:11:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I went into the mall today.

I’m pretty sure the workers in the mall probably aren’t even as well paid as Amazon warehouse workers.

I’m also pretty sure most of the mall shop owners except for Costco are waiting for their leases to expire.

Trying to raise wages will mean Costco is the only store in the mall and that 80% of the mall jobs will disappear.


50 posted on 09/05/2018 1:15:48 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: grania

“It’s disingenuous to say “they can go elsewhere”.”

It’s a fact of life.

I learned from an old Disney cartoon that the world doesn’t owe me a living.

Is the cost of living too high? Then MOVE.

All of these articles people post of places hiring hundreds and thousands of people. You have no excuse to hang around some overpriced city crying that some low-skill job owes you a salary so you can be there.


51 posted on 09/05/2018 1:16:29 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: central_va

Because he’s paying what the market will bear. No one is forcing these people to work for Amazon. The key is to turn down these jobs and prevent illegals from taking them and I promise you, Amazon would have to raise the wages to attract people.


52 posted on 09/05/2018 1:16:30 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Bull crap.

They do not have enough cash to make it all automated.

Enough to take care of the places that it needs to be if they cant fill empty slots.

“I may not be socialist in the respects that Bernie is associated with but it is not a free market or capitalism when large profitable companies are taking direct advantage of government programs like Medicare, SNAP, WIC and who knows what else to contribute to an employees overall survival abilities.”

So if you dont pay the kid cutting your grass enough, and he has to borrow money from his mom to go to the movies, are you taking advantage of her to “contribute to his overall survival abilities”?

No. You just paid what his labor was worth.

And why do you assume that everyone that works in that position are on welfare anyway?

“Spare me the entry level argument, we’re not talking about burger flipping jobs for teenagers.”

What difference does that make? Are now some workers entitled to this magic wage? A lot of those unworthy burger flippers aren’t all teenagers.

I seem to remember a lot of people here lambasting those fast-food workers for wanting 15 dollars an hour. So what happened there? Burger-flipping isnt worthy of this “living wage”, but working at a warehouse is?

Start your own Amazon, and pay people 90 dollars an hour if you want.


53 posted on 09/05/2018 1:23:15 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: central_va

I agree, though shareholders might not like the hit on the bottom line. So, in essence, taxpayers are subsidizing shareholders.


54 posted on 09/05/2018 1:23:44 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

“Will a company like Amazon be automated for the most part? 20-40 years from now very likely. Could they do it now? No way.”

Amazon has the incredible stock value that it does simply because its possibilities are great too.

Even 25 years ago I didn’t even try to develop patents in the field since the possibilities were so obvious.


55 posted on 09/05/2018 1:23:51 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: central_va

“Why should taxpayers subsidize his employees?”

Because were are not?


56 posted on 09/05/2018 1:24:46 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: TangledUpInBlue

It about the taxpayer subsidizing his workforce. THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THAT FACT. Hell, while we are at it lets dump farm subsidies also. Those are BS.


57 posted on 09/05/2018 1:25:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: VanDeKoik

But the fact is the taxpayer IS subsidizing his work force LOL! You will deny reality? I WON’T LET YOU.


58 posted on 09/05/2018 1:26:12 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: grania

“fast food should cost enough to reflect economic realities.”

As a retired person, I pretty much have stopped buying it, for cost and quality reasons.

American-born customers have economic realities too.


59 posted on 09/05/2018 1:28:34 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: sparklite2
So, in essence, US taxpayers are subsidizing globalist international shareholders.

Fixed. Nice work if you can get it.

60 posted on 09/05/2018 1:28:36 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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