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Former Top U.S. Vatican Official Says Pope, Cdl Wuerl are Enablers of McCarrick, Abusers' Mafia.
https://www.scribd.com/document/387040553/TESTIMONY-of-His-Excellency-Carlo-Maria-Vigano-Titular-Archbishop-of-Ulpiana-Apostolic-Nuncio#from_embed ^ | retired Papal Nuncio to the United States, Archbishop Carlo Vigano

Posted on 08/26/2018 12:10:00 AM PDT by dangus

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I'm not putting this in the Catholic Caucus because I believe it merits the absolute widest readership so as to best achieve reform. However, I do ask that you respect this purpose as well as your fellow Freepers who are Catholic, and try to remain constructive.
1 posted on 08/26/2018 12:10:00 AM PDT by dangus
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Thank you for inviting the non-Catholic public to comment on this explosive controversy in the church.

Judging from the number of threads I’ve seen about this in the last couple of days, I think this story will dominate the news in coming weeks.

Even we non-Catholics understand how huge this is.


2 posted on 08/26/2018 12:26:43 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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The issue is larger than abuse. The issue is Satanic infiltration.
3 posted on 08/26/2018 12:37:18 AM PDT by dangus
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This testimony definitely clarifies that Satan is using liberalism as a weapon against the Catholic Church, as he has the other churches as well. This really gives one a much clearer interpretation of Podesta’s leaked emails.


4 posted on 08/26/2018 12:40:05 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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McCarrick and Bernardin both used black masses as part of their sexual abuse. This cannot be ignored. The targets were usually men seeking to be priests, old enough to be sincere in this pursuit and young enough to be innocent. This is also a Satanic desecration, just as surely as a black mass.


5 posted on 08/26/2018 12:41:50 AM PDT by dangus
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Yes, but liberalism must be defined as broader than simply economic statism or sexual licentiousness, but rather as the totality of rebellion against God. The Satanic Cardinal Bernardin’s collaborator Saul Alinsky got it right when he identified Satan as the father of radicals.


6 posted on 08/26/2018 12:45:31 AM PDT by dangus
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What a remarkable document.


7 posted on 08/26/2018 12:48:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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I’ve worded that overly ambiguously. I mean to broaden what is meant by liberalism to include all rebellion against God, not to say that what is called liberalism is alone what comprises rebellion against God.


8 posted on 08/26/2018 12:48:25 AM PDT by dangus
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Amazing to witness history in real time. I don’t think a papacy has been hit by such an extraordinary document since perhaps Wittenburg Castle, 1517.


9 posted on 08/26/2018 1:10:26 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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I’d heard the charges against bernadin. Do you have a source for mccarrick?


10 posted on 08/26/2018 1:11:50 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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Liberalism and Leftism are very different. What the Catholic Church is infiltrated with is beyond a political or social ideology.


11 posted on 08/26/2018 1:15:34 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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One might say that the source is this Vigano letter:

In writing up a memo on these documents that were entrusted to me, as Delegate for Pontifical Representations, on December 6, 2006, I wrote to my superiors, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone and the Substitute Leonardo Sandri, that the facts attributed to McCarrick by Littleton were of such gravity and vileness as to provoke bewilderment, a sense of disgust, deep sorrow and bitterness in the reader, and that they constituted the crimes of seducing, requesting depraved acts of seminarians and priests, repeatedly and simultaneously with several people, derision of a young seminarian who tried to resist the Archbishop’s seductions in the presence of two other priests, absolution of the accomplices in these depraved acts, sacrilegious celebration of the Eucharist with the same priests after committing such acts.
12 posted on 08/26/2018 1:17:02 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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Do you (or does anyone) know the background of this document?

Is it verified, and is the author living and who he says he is?


13 posted on 08/26/2018 1:20:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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As I understand it, Vigano's letter was initially released to Vatican journalist Ed Pentin, an Englishman who writes for the National Catholic Register:
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/ex-nuncio-accuses-pope-francis-of-failing-to-act-on-mccarricks-abuse
14 posted on 08/26/2018 1:33:04 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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OK I have a bit more background.

The guy is real, he really was the nuncio in the USA from 2011-2016. He was sent here as a way to get him away from whistleblowing in the Vatican, mostly about finances.

He got crossways with Bertone, who was kind of a Prime Minister, if there is such a thing, under Benedict XVI.

We all know people who “blow the whistle” frequently. Sometimes they are heroes and martyrs, sometimes they are a bit off.

Vigano is certainly going to be attacked as the second sort, and he will be placed under enormous pressure to recant. If, however, he’s telling the truth and if he sticks by his guns and has the documentation, then it’s a revolution without precedent with enormous implications for Christianity all over the world.


15 posted on 08/26/2018 1:39:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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Actually, a cleric giving absolution to individuals with whom he violated the 6th Commandment, and then celebrating Mass would constitute sacrilege in itself.


16 posted on 08/26/2018 1:40:35 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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sacrilegious celebration of the Eucharist with the same priests after committing such acts.

Words fail.

Am not Catholic and this still sends my mind reeling with revulsion.

17 posted on 08/26/2018 1:41:55 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("Progressivism" is as every kind of evil: it can never create, only corrupt and destroy.)
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O don’t be call it infiltration. I call “They opened it door and invited Satan in.”

And it’d not just a Catholics. These huge balptist megachurchs are nothing but rock
concerts.

I’m going to find a Church of Christ to attend. They don’t allow instruments inside the building.


18 posted on 08/26/2018 1:43:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go jst inraight to the comments..)
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A much needed wiping via a religious reform is long overdue within the Catholic Church, as well as a few other Christian denominations.....


19 posted on 08/26/2018 3:14:10 AM PDT by cranked
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Please forgive me for commenting as a non Catholic, but even in the first sentence, it shows they still don’t get it.

The phrase “tragic moment for the church” appears in the first sentence, showing once again their first thoughts are for the church., the church as victim. Wow.


20 posted on 08/26/2018 3:15:34 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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