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Has the West the will to survive?
WND ^ | June 21st, 2018 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/21/2018 8:13:50 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: kabar

Mark Steyn also did an excellent job of identifying the problem in “America, Alone” in 2006. It’s a very timely book and still relevant.


61 posted on 06/22/2018 9:54:57 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Biggirl
Folks, lets stop being Debbie Downers PLEASE!

It's called "realism." White birth rates are collapsing in the U.S. Millennials aren't getting married or having kids like generations before did. PC has infected a substantial fraction of the population, often as a result of leftist capture of schools and churches. We've had fifty or sixty years of open borders and no politician has the will to speak out against it. Teddy Kennedy sponsored the change in immigration law in the 60s that opened the country to non-Europeans. Very few speak the obvious truths that immigration should be for the benefit of the receiving country. Trump is the last of a generation of leaders like him. One or two generations of young people have been inculcated and indoctrinated in the ridiculous beliefs that no culture is better than another and we have no rights to keep anybody out. There are a few glimmers of hope - Eastern Europe, Italy, President Trump, a slowly building resurgence of nationalism and patriotism. But almost no Congress critters support president Trump and nobody speaks plainly to defend Western Civilization from the onslaught. The word is out in the Southern Hemisphere that the Northern Hemisphere is ripe for take-over and invasion...plus they won't repel the invaders. Call that "Debbie Downer" if you like, but it is all cold, hard fact. Wishing people would not expose facts and reality is like an ostrich putting his head in the sand. Only after understanding what is going on, who is driving it, and why can you be prepared to respond to your enemies' attacks. The enemy of liberalism and freedom is well organized and is a federation of a thousand groups. Our effort to push back (the Tea Party) was illegally fought by our own government and abetted by traitors like John McCain (today's news).

62 posted on 06/22/2018 10:29:06 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Good news is that since Trump has been elected things are starting to turn around. There is a lot to do but I see good happening. We are dealing with a desperate left.


63 posted on 06/22/2018 10:36:28 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: There is still a lot to be done.


64 posted on 06/22/2018 10:37:38 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

These groups are showing their desperation at WINNING.


65 posted on 06/22/2018 11:23:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Pat Buchanan's Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization is excellent and was written in 2002.

Mark Steyn's book was written in 2008.

66 posted on 06/22/2018 11:32:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Roccus

That is what the evidence shows. Every institution is utterly controlled by those hoping to destroy our nation. Vacuous indoctrination through propaganda has driven out true knowledge in far too many areas. You are not allowed to question it without being shamed or attacked.


67 posted on 06/22/2018 11:55:00 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; Roccus

I have no doubt that Roccus, like me, will go down with the ship before surrendering. But we don’t have any illusions about where we are.


68 posted on 06/22/2018 11:57:42 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Ransomed

You are correct about the apathy of the electorate and I might add it has been caused by the belief that it does not matter enough to vote. No one is trusted to change things.


69 posted on 06/22/2018 12:02:18 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Biggirl

The fact that such a question has to be addressed shows that we are in no way a “Debbie Downers” or even “Nattering nabobs of negativity.”

We have turned our backs to God and this is the result.


70 posted on 06/22/2018 12:11:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

Battle of wills. Losing hope would be the first step to losing, wouldn’t it? ;)

We dealt with how many consecutive years of leftie control? We didn’t lose our sh!t. Well mostly we didn’t.

They are less than 2 years into Trump’s 8 and they are ALL borderline psychotic.

Stay the course, we’re fine.


71 posted on 06/22/2018 12:18:27 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: kabar

Of course the people of the West have the will to preserve it.

The problem is, many of them don’t know what the West is (meaning they don’t know it defines everything about their own lives) and they don’t know who their enemies are.

That’s all there is to it. They’ve been brainwashed. I’m sure you probably agree at least in part.

My point is, Buchanan has misread the problem. It’s not a lack of will to preserve the West, it’s a complete cluelessness about what’s going on.


72 posted on 06/22/2018 1:20:08 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: kabar

Since around the 1960s, many in this country have been brainwashed to think we should “be just like Sweden,” to use a common viewpoint.

But they don’t know much about reality. They’ve been brainwashed.

The question is not is there a will to preserve the West. The question is what will the breakdown of response be as the people of the West continue to figure out they’ve been swindled.

What has happened in Sweden and what’s happening in Sweden, and in the rest of western Europe, is not stable. Meaning unpredictable.


73 posted on 06/22/2018 1:24:06 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith
Of course the people of the West have the will to preserve it.

So far, that isn't the case. The globalist leaders of almost all these countries, with certain exceptions like Trump and Orban, continue to extol multiculturalism and mass immigration. Political correctness and tribal politics still reign.

The problem is, many of them don’t know what the West is (meaning they don’t know it defines everything about their own lives) and they don’t know who their enemies are. That’s all there is to it. They’ve been brainwashed. I’m sure you probably agree at least in part.

There is no doubt that our educational system and MSM are "brainwashing" the populace. Anyone who opposes the transformation of America thru demography and our immigration policies is branded a racist. At some point, they win. Where is the outrage and resistance? We are no longer the same country demographically or culturally. We are being colonized by the Third World.

My point is, Buchanan has misread the problem. It’s not a lack of will to preserve the West, it’s a complete cluelessness about what’s going on.

We will just agree to disagree. The will to protect our patrimony is being sapped and destroyed by our leaders and elites. By 2019, half of the children 18 and under will be minorities. And each cohort that follows will be more minority than the previous one. Minorities consider themselves victims of America's racism. The Founding Fathers were racist white men. Most immigrants don't feel any identification or connection with our fore-bearers except as victims.

International migration is projected to surpass natural increase (births minus deaths) as the principal driver of U.S. population growth by the middle of this century, according to three new series of population projections released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. This scenario would mark the first time that natural increase was not the leading cause of population increase since at least 1850, when the census began collecting information about residents' country of birth. The shift in what drives U.S. population growth is projected to occur between 2027 and 2038, depending on the future level of international migration.

74 posted on 06/22/2018 4:18:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: arrogantsob

You want to know what’s really interesting?

For centuries, we’ve all gone along with shifting power. Shift a little left, shift a little right. Keeps us going straight. Got no issue with that, it’s common sense. You drift too far in one direction, our system naturally corrected course.

Now what do we have.

A bunch of kids brought up on that everybody gets a trophy BS and leftie leanings for the majority of their lives.

So when our system said....hold on...let’s stop a minute and bunker up. See what we got.

They lost their minds.

This is nothing more than the usual ebb and flow....trouble is, last time the tide went out....all the kids were used to that leftie full pool.

It’ll sort out. Or not. Either way, me and mine will be fine. Been wanting to try some of that Long Pork for a while. Hell, maybe the situation will make that happen.

Mmmm. Long leftie pork, simmered with some actual pork fat and beans.

Yeah...not doing that. But, the West isn’t going anywhere either. We’ve just started fighting back.

/end of pep talk. going back to being some random d!ckhead with @sshole comments now.


75 posted on 06/22/2018 5:22:31 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

OH. The point I was getting at.

They took Trump hard.

They reacted badly.

Now, we have an excuse and president to act badly, if we so choose.

Imma put that in my wallet. Might need that later.


76 posted on 06/22/2018 5:23:53 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

Precident. You know what I meant.

:P


77 posted on 06/22/2018 5:25:34 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: T-Bone Texan

You make some good observations. Most people simply don’t see it.


78 posted on 06/22/2018 5:49:18 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: All

Nothing but OPINION, that is all.


79 posted on 06/23/2018 3:59:41 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

What we have seeing is leftist crybabying this week. It will soon past.


80 posted on 06/23/2018 4:08:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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