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Israel hopes spy Jonathan Pollard can emigrate for US embassy opening
Agence France-Presse ^ | 30 Apr 2018 | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 04/30/2018 9:22:09 AM PDT by WisconsinRep

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To: Neoliberalnot

“They are not an ally Marvin.”

Man, I better stop training US Airmen, then.


81 posted on 04/30/2018 1:48:16 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: NorthMountain

Jew or not, the guy did 30 years for his crime.

His debt is paid. Get over it.


82 posted on 04/30/2018 1:57:54 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: HKMk23
His debt is paid.

So let him wallow in well-earned oblivion. Making him the hero of the day at the opening of our new embassy is abominable.

83 posted on 04/30/2018 2:01:23 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: familyop

Polls do not an ally make. Israel is a foreign welfare recipient. That is not the definition of an ally such as the UK, France, or Australia, all of which fought by our side in war. Read up on how they slaughtered 37 US citizen sailors unable to defend themselves—see the story of the USS Liberty for a nice review of our so-called ally.


84 posted on 04/30/2018 3:16:45 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Jewbacca

I have no idea what you are talking about?


85 posted on 04/30/2018 3:18:37 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: WisconsinRep

What is the national security reason for not executing spies?

Hansen, the Walkers, Pollard etc. have not been executed. Or waterboarded. I just don’t know.

What did Sun Tzu say about spies and traitors?

5.56mm


86 posted on 04/30/2018 3:32:26 PM PDT by M Kehoe (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: M Kehoe

Because you never know exactly what they revealed. You know what they were officially privy to but a “smart spy” increases that information range. Also their “handler” usually “tasks” them to do that! (The longer they went undetected the larger potentially the range!). You don’t know for sure who their contacts were or were they part of network. You don’t know who they “spotted” as potential weak points either individuals who could later be “turned” or weaknesses in your security system. (Of course also your captured spy could later be a bargaining chip!) While they’re imprisoned you can add or subtract “life conveniences” as a way of continuing to peel back the information as to what they did or didn’t do etc.

You execute them, they’re dead! No more questioning! If you didn’t get the full story you now never will.

Watch “Turned” set aside the “glitz & literary license” and its all there. The basics don’t change.


87 posted on 04/30/2018 4:01:49 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily

Okay, you make some good points.

Hang them after waterboarding.

5.56mm


88 posted on 04/30/2018 4:05:54 PM PDT by M Kehoe (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Jewbacca
If you read up on the Pollard case you might learn a lot of things that weren't common knowledge at the time.

For one thing, he didn't just spy for "legitimate" reasons (whatever they may be). He sold classified information to countries as unrelated to his Israeli handlers as South Africa and Pakistan. Some of the information he sold ended up in Soviet hands.

There was a deal for sentencing that the judge abrogated after ex parte communications the defense could not rebut.

I don't believe that was the case at all. Check out the link in Post #8. Joe DiGenova, who prosecuted the case, explains what actually happened. The judge didn't "abrogate" any deal. He overrode the sentencing agreement after the U.S. Secretary of Defense provided a national security damage assessment as required in any such espionage case.

I agree he should be allowed to go to Israel. He should be stripped of his U.S. citizenship first.

89 posted on 04/30/2018 4:40:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Neoliberalnot
Israel is not an ally of the United States. Legally, allies are countries that have mutual defense obligations to each other. As a NATO member, Turkey is more closely aligned with the U.S. than Israel is.

Israel's relationship with the U.S. is really no different than Saudi Arabia's. They are two countries that simply spend a lot of money buying members of Congress.

90 posted on 04/30/2018 4:45:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I deplore the anti-semitism on this thread. Comey has done more damage to this country than Pollard ever did! Will Comey serve 30 years in prison?


91 posted on 04/30/2018 5:51:15 PM PDT by miserare ( Hillary--you lost! Get over it!!)
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To: Alberta's Child; HKMk23; SunkenCiv; familyop; SJackson
Alberta's Child writes:

"Turkey is more closely aligned with the U.S. than Israel is."

NOW we know where you are coming from, Albert's child.

You are posting from the basement of the Turkish embassy.

92 posted on 04/30/2018 5:52:02 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: miserare
Can you please cite a single post with any anti-Semitism in it?

Calling a traitor a traitor is not anti-Semitism.

And we don't know how much damage was done to U.S. national security interests by Pollard.

93 posted on 04/30/2018 5:53:32 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Neoliberalnot; MarvinStinson; HKMk23; SunkenCiv; SJackson
Neoliberalnot wrote:
"Read up on how they slaughtered 37 US citizen sailors unable to defend themselves—see the story of the USS Liberty for a nice review of our so-called ally."

Let's have a look at it for the purpose of exposing you neo-Nazis.

USS LIBERTY AND THE NEW NAZIS
Wild Bill for America
Published on Nov 27, 2015
"Bill discovers the identities of those promoting hatred of Israel over the USS Liberty incident."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSz9fiJrmck


94 posted on 04/30/2018 7:52:04 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Neoliberalnot; MarvinStinson; HKMk23; SunkenCiv; SJackson
Lies about the "USS Liberty"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3478


95 posted on 04/30/2018 8:03:54 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Neoliberalnot; MarvinStinson; HKMk23; SunkenCiv; SJackson
The Liberty Incident: The 1967 Israeli Attack on the U.S. Spy Ship
http://www.danielpipes.org/488/the-liberty-incident-the-1967-israeli-attack-on-the-us-spy


96 posted on 04/30/2018 8:04:57 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: miserare
I deplore the anti-semitism on this thread.

You "deplore" something that does not exist. You're playing the race card to support man who is a liar, a spy, and a traitor. Shame on you.

Will Comey serve 30 years in prison?

He should spend the rest of his life in a cell next to Robert Hanssen. Funny thing is, neither one would know the other existed.

And seriously: grow up. The race card has exceeded its credit limit; we don't accept it any more. It has no buying power.

97 posted on 04/30/2018 8:10:50 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Neoliberalnot; MarvinStinson; HKMk23; SunkenCiv; SJackson

Lawyer hired to defend Baltimore cops was part of neo-Nazi group because ‘I had some pretty awful experiences with black people’ in the Army
Lawyer hired to defend Baltimore cops was part of neo-Nazi group
BY Christopher Brennan
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 10:07 PM
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lawyer-hired-defend-baltimore-cops-part-neo-nazi-group-article-1.2755610
“...and said that he agrees with the conspiracy theory that the bombing of the USS Liberty in 1967 was not an accident...”


98 posted on 04/30/2018 8:14:00 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Neoliberalnot; MarvinStinson; HKMk23; SunkenCiv; SJackson

The Liberty Incident
http://www.thelibertyincident.com/


99 posted on 04/30/2018 8:46:56 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Neoliberalnot; MarvinStinson; HKMk23; SunkenCiv; SJackson

Why would anyone in the free world continue vomiting the neo-Nazi canard about the USS Liberty in support of the evil nations that killed so many hundreds of thousands of U.S. soldiers, Marines and sailors who worked for a living in World War One and World War Two? Why are they calling so many U.S. servicemen traitors? Did their parents raise them wrong? Was it the late-60s hippie brainwashing? Are they on drugs? Are they carrying on with a disease of the mind passed down by their ancestors?

USS Liberty
http://sixdaywar.org/uss-liberty.asp


100 posted on 04/30/2018 9:07:01 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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