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Breaking: UK Judge Denies Parents Request To Take Son To Italy For Medical Treatment
Hotair ^ | 04/24/2018 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/24/2018 12:55:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: circlecity

I wonder how all the socialist in the UK like socialized medicine now? Death panels anyone?

Here is a case where someone else will take over the care, which costs them nothing, but just to avoid having to say they’re wrong, the bureaucrats are going to kill a child. Isn’t socialism wonderful?

It’s so nice to just have wise government bureaucrats make the tough decisions for you, like whether your child should have a chance at life or not.


21 posted on 04/24/2018 1:28:58 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Dogbert41

Was thinking the same thing.


22 posted on 04/24/2018 1:30:16 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: unlearner

This is just another step on the road to a one-world tyranny, whose leaders will decide which of us should live or die. It’s a small step, but very symbolic. Of course, for Alfie and his family, it’s devastating.

The globalists believe the world is overpopulated by at least 6 billion people. Their ultimate goal is a maximum of one billion. They have a lot of work to do, but they are relentless in their vision and energy. They must be stopped at some point.


23 posted on 04/24/2018 1:30:58 PM PDT by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind

What if it were Prince Charles royal POS brat? You’d find out that all in socialism aren’t equal, if you’re in the govt you’re a different class.


24 posted on 04/24/2018 1:31:23 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: SeekAndFind

The parents of these children need to start taking vacations to the states after their kids are diagnosed and ask for asylum instead of waiting for the judges to turn them down at the last minute


25 posted on 04/24/2018 1:32:54 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Jonty30; SeekAndFind

Agreed with Jonty30. It has already happened in the US. Courts have been stripping parents rights to determine appropriate medical treatment for their children for years now.

And Terri Schiavo.


26 posted on 04/24/2018 1:33:28 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: SeekAndFind

Fascist dictators killing children.


27 posted on 04/24/2018 1:35:43 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: blackdog

Like in the movie “John Q”.


28 posted on 04/24/2018 1:36:47 PM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: SeekAndFind

In America, “Progressive” ideas are more aptly described by the word “socialist.”

In the following quotations from Churchill, we can see thoughts of his on the subject dating from 1908 to the 1950’s. Much of what is happening in America today is described within these words:

“When I see the present Socialist Government denouncing capitalism in all its forms, mocking with derision and contempt the tremendous free enterprise capitalist system on which the mighty production of the United States is founded, I cannot help feeling that as a nation we are not acting honorably or even honestly.” - Winston Churchill, Woodford Green, July 10, 1948.

“We shall not allow the advance of society and economic well-being of the nation to be regulated and curtailed by the pace of the weakest bretheren among us. Proper incentives must be offered and full freedom given to the strong to use their strength in the commonweal. Initiative, enterprise, thrift, domestic foresight, contrivance, good housekeeping and natural ability must reap their just reward. On any other plan the population of this island will sink by disastrous and agonizing stages to a far lower standard of life and two-thirds of its present numbers.” - Winston Churchill, speech, Blenheim Palace, August 4, 1947.

“The difference between what is seen and what is not seen was often noticed by the old economists. What is not seen is the infinite variety of individual transactions and decisions which, in a civilized society, within the framework of just and well-known laws, insure the advantage not only of the individual concerned, but of the community, and provide that general body of well-being constituting the wealth of nations. All this is blotted out by an over-riding State control, however imposing some of its manifestations may be. It is the vital creative impulse that that I deeply fear the doctrines and policy of the socialist Government have destroyed, or are rapidly destroying, in our national life. Nothing that they can plan and order and rush around enforcing will take its place. They have broken the mainspring, and until we get a new one the watch will not go.” - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, October 28, 1947.

“It is in the interest of the wage-earner to have many other alternatives open to him than service under one all-powerful employer called the State. He will be in a better position to bargain collectively and production will be more abundant; there will be more for all and more freedom for all when the wage earner is able, in the large majority of cases, to choose and change his work, and deal with a private employer who, like himself, is subject to the ordinary pressures of life and, like himself, is dependent upon his personal thrift, ingenuity and good-housekeeping.” - Winston Churchill, speech, Blackpool, October 5, 1946

“Liberalism (classical liberalism) has its own history and its own tradition. Socialism has its own formulas and aims. Socialism seeks to pull down wealth; Liberalism seeks to raise up poverty. Socialism would destroy private interests; Liberalism would preserve private interests in the only way in which they can be safely and justly preserved, namely, by reconciling them with public right. Socialism would kill enterprise; Liberalism would rescue enterprise from the trammels of privilege and preference. Socialism assails the pre-eminence of the individual; Liberalism seeks, and shall seek more in the future, to build up a minimum standard for the mass. Socialism exalts the rule; Liberalism exalts the man. Socialism attacks capital; Liberalism attacks monopoly.” - Winston Churchill, Kinnaird Hall, Dundee, May 14, 1908.

“The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination: between concentration of ownership in the hands of the State and the extension of a property-owning democracy; between a policy of increasing restraint and a policy of liberating energy and ingenuity: between a policy of levelling down and a policy of finding opportunities for all to rise upwards from a basic standard.” - Winston Churchill, speech in Woodford, England, January 28, 1950.

“It is curious that, while in the days of my youth I was much reproached with inconsistency and being changeable, I am now scolded for adhering to the same views I had early in life and even of repeating passages from speeches which I made long before most of you were born. Of course the world moves on and we dwell in a constantly changing climate of opinion. But the broad principles and truths of wise and sane political actions do not necessarily alter with the changing moods of a democratic electorate. Not everything changes. Two and two still make four, and I could give you many other instances which go to prove that all wisdom is not new wisdom.” - Winston Churchill, speech, Bele vue, Manchester, December 6, 1947.

“It is not Parliament that should rule; it is the people who should rule through Parliament.” - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. November 11, 1947.

“We have to combat the wolf of socialism, and we shall be able to do it far more effectively as a pack of hounds than as a flock of sheep.” - Winston Churchill, speech, 1937.

:Athough it is now put forward in the main by people who have a good grounding in the Liberalism and Radicalism of the early part of this century, there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. It is not alone that property, in all its forms, is struck at, but that liberty, in all its forms, is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism.” - Winston Churchill, B.B.C radio address, June 4, 1945.

“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” - Winston Churchill, House of Commons, October 22, 1945.

“Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.” - Winston Churchill, Perth, May 28, 1948.

“I do not wonder that British youth is in revolt against the morbid doctrine that nothing matters but the equal sharing of miseries: that what used to be called the submerged tenth can only be rescued by bringing the other nine-tenths down to their level; against the folly that it is better that everyone should have half rations rather than that any by their exertions, or ability, should earn a second helping.” - Winston Churchill, London, June 22, 1948.

“Socialism is based on the idea of an all-powerful State which owns everything, which plans everything, which distributes everything, and thus through its politicians and officials decides the daily life of the individual citizen.” - Winston Churchill, London, January 21, 1950.

“The British and Americans do not war with races or governments as such. Tyranny, external or internal, is our foe whatever trappings and disguises it wears, whatever language it speaks, or perverts.” - Winston Churchill, Speech, Dorchester Hotel, London, July 4, 1953.

“You may try to destroy wealth, and find that all you have done is to increase poverty.” - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons. March 12, 1947.

“Nor should it be supposed as you would imagine, to read some of the Left-wing newspaper, that all Americans are multi-millionaires of Wall Street. If they were all multi-millionaires that would be no reason for condemning a system which has produced such material results.: - Winston Churchill, speech, Royal Albert Hall, London. April 21, 1948.

“Rich men, although valuable to the revenue, are not vital to a healthy state of society, but a society in which rich men are got rid of, from motives of jealousy, is not a healthy state.” - Winston Churchill, speech, House of Commons, April 24, 1950.


29 posted on 04/24/2018 1:37:06 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: SeekAndFind

The worst part about it is that no one is asking the UK to pay for anything. The treatment will be paid for in Italy and the UK won’t have any obligation. This is pure evil dressed up as bureaucratic regulation.


30 posted on 04/24/2018 1:44:59 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: circlecity

But its the “Conservative Party” that holds power.

Theresa May is a monster presiding over Charlie Gard’s death last year and now this outrage.


31 posted on 04/24/2018 1:46:45 PM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: SeekAndFind

NEVER let any government have control over the life and death of your child.


32 posted on 04/24/2018 1:48:18 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind
Heil NHS!

The past and present is our future if Socialized Medicine is allowed to fester.

33 posted on 04/24/2018 1:48:39 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would think they could remove their child from the hospital and get on a plane.

How did a judge get involved?


34 posted on 04/24/2018 1:55:53 PM PDT by Aria
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To: SeekAndFind

Like a nightmare, but it’s real.

I remember staying up all night [praying] during the Terri Schindler-Schiavo killing, hoping that Jeb Bush would save her, but he did not.

Terri’s brother, Bobby, would have cared for her for life, and if he died before her, he would have seen to it that prior provisions would have been made.

We are a fallen society.


35 posted on 04/24/2018 2:00:27 PM PDT by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: SeekAndFind

The British government has effectively kidnapped Alfie Evans, as Charlie Gard before him.


36 posted on 04/24/2018 2:11:17 PM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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To: blackdog

Where’s Guy Fawkes when you need him?


37 posted on 04/24/2018 2:14:00 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Slyfox

And with the Government of the United States he was repatriated to South America and given a new identity

Just like Eichmann and Hitler as well as many others

This is gonna blow your minds when it all comes out


38 posted on 04/24/2018 2:16:02 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: SeekAndFind

Par for the course for Britain these days. Britain has reverted to the days of King James.


39 posted on 04/24/2018 2:17:03 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: SeekAndFind

It is very common for Canadians now to seek treatment in the US. My boss needed some serious back treatment and no one had the expertise he was happy with in Canada. So he paid $8000 and got it done in the US.

The worst we have had in Canada is refusal to pay. I don’t recall the exact story, but parents had a child with a rare disease and had it treated in the US. According to the Ontario legislation, Ontario should have reimbursed them, but the politicians refused.


40 posted on 04/24/2018 2:19:00 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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