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To: Zhang Fei

Your thinking is too clever by half. Like your Israeli example showed, you don’t need chemical weapons to get people to leave. Gun down all the adult men, rape the women and children. People will get the message and leave. Starvation is an even more effective tool to precipitate large scale population transfers. Immediate hunger and thirst will force undesirable Sunnis out of Syria faster than a random once a year chemical weapon attack.

The biggest problem with the American strategy in Syria is fundamentally because the Americans demand that they be the “goodies” and other people be “baddies” and thus the mountain of lies peddled by the American luggenpresse regarding America’s role in Syria.

The most beneficent reading of America’s intention in Syria is that the CIA/Pentagon/State Department honestly thought a foreign Jihadi backed Sunni radical movement could affect a relatively quick and painless regime change to a more Pro-American government and that simple bureaucratic inertia kept with this strategy for years past its sell by date even when it became obvious it wasn’t going to work. This is plausible because the American establishment is precisely that combination of delusionally stupid and cravenly careerist that this is a realistic explanation.

The alternative hypothesis is that the CIA/Pentagon/State Department knew exactly what it was doing in funding Jihadists and forming an alliance of opportunity with Al Qaeda and really has no expectation of actually overthrowing Assad. The entire purpose of the War is only tangentially related to Syria and it is instead primarily a method to bleed Iran and to a lesser degree Russia of men and material at relatively modest financial cost to itself. Afghanistan redux. The hundreds of thousands of Syrian dead are simply irrelevant roadkill in this strategy.

The rather bold faced lies coming from American state media could be reconciled by either explanation. The first theory is that the lies are to shield their gross incompetence. The second theory is that the lies are to shield their Machiavellian scheming which soft hearted American voters wanting to be the good guys would never publically approve of.


19 posted on 04/19/2018 8:18:20 PM PDT by Duke of Qin
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To: Duke of Qin

“Your thinking is too clever by half. Like your Israeli example showed, you don’t need chemical weapons to get people to leave. Gun down all the adult men, rape the women and children. People will get the message and leave. Starvation is an even more effective tool to precipitate large scale population transfers. Immediate hunger and thirst will force undesirable Sunnis out of Syria faster than a random once a year chemical weapon attack.”


All of this was already being done, by both sides. The message wasn’t getting through. Hence Assad’s need for gas attacks.

I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea about deliberate American sponsorship of jihadists. The reality is of a very foggy understanding of realities on the ground, compounded by political correctness. People in the State Department (and indeed, Americans in general) really think inside every (insert nationality) is an American struggling to get out. It’s of a piece with the idea that on average, blacks aren’t more criminal than anyone else and just as talented in fields outside of sports and entertainment. It’s the fundamental assumption underlying American foreign policy since the waning days of the Cold War, as far back as the Reagan era - a policy that holds that liberal democracy in foreign countries is good in and of itself, even if it brings our opponents (and in some cases our enemies) to power. This was how we ended up losing Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines to a hostile, equally kleptocratic set of rulers. It’s how the PI ended up with a witless retard like Duterte in power, a man who makes Marcos look like the PI’s Alfred the Great.


20 posted on 04/19/2018 9:46:06 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Duke of Qin

Stephen Solarz, the man who convinced Reagan to push Marcos out of power, is probably the single reason China is now in the process of consolidating its hold on the South China Sea, via its man-made mini-islands. As soon as the PI’s Senate was able to, it pushed the US out of the Subic Bay Naval Base. In hindsight, I wouldn’t be surprised if Deng Xiaoping gave a number of these useless mouths big fat bribes to evict Uncle Sam. The fact is that State Department people, as well as many in Congress, are so in thrall to liberal democracy as some kind of elixir that they are blind to its negative effects on US interests. These people may not believe in God, but they continue to promote democracy in countries with hostile (to the US) populations. People who don’t believe in God don’t believe in nothing - the problem is that they’ll believe in anything, except the blindingly obvious.


21 posted on 04/19/2018 9:56:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Duke of Qin

Very clear and persuasive writing...kudos!


22 posted on 04/20/2018 10:27:25 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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