Posted on 04/17/2018 1:45:49 PM PDT by T-Bird45
Ha... yes on the runway short of the first high speed turnoff. Only Senator Heinz lands on Philadelphia.
Well, thank God that this pilot was skilled and able to land this plane safely.
Prayers for the victim and family. Extreme gratitude that there weren’t many more.
Turkmenistan rebuilds and yellow tags a lot of jet engines. Thousands a month. This always puzzled me.
“(They say it is about 250 tons total in the AirBus.)
An A380 isn’t a good comparison to a 737.
CFM is a 50/50 joint venture between SAF and GE Aviation. I believe they have done some innovative things as they received a couple of awards. Now to find out if the one over the Gulf last year was also a CFM. If so then there is likely a fatigue induced design failure that is very hard to detect. I’m sure we’ll know more soon....
less than one tenth that 250 ton amount in a 737.
CIA-controlled assets, black hats caused it IMO.
Some staging too...how are papers and a kindle/tablet left on the seat next to it? Where is the blood we were told was there???
FBI opened an investigation on Q...
Q says book boom so they blame him.
I’m fanning the discussion. Look at the excellent inputs in #12, #18.
And thank you for your input too.
By the way, I had a close friend, his wife and five children die on Alaska 261 from Seattle to Mexico in 2000. Cause of crash: defective lead screw made of improperly tempered steel manufactured and supplied by China.
“The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of this accident was a loss of airplane pitch control resulting from the in-flight failure of the horizontal stabilizer trim system jackscrew assembly’s acme nut threads”
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/AAR0201.aspx
And another by the way on the subject of Alaska 261. A couple I knew in South Seattle had a son that worked as an aviation maintenance tech for Alaska at the time. Their son said the NTSB pulled a political hit on Alaska saying the cause was improper lubrication which he is said was bullcrap. NTSB didn’t want to point to Chinese steel as the cause because it was too hot to handle politically. But NTSB did require in the aftermath total testing verification of assemblies made in China by Alaska suppliers. So they knew.
My friend’s son said Alaska management immediately had all jack screw assemblies pulled from inventory and their suppliers do the same, had them tested and found them defective while the parts records were signed off without the required testing and verification. Chinese factory managers think all the testing and records requirements are bunk. They think Americans and their quality control and quality assurance requirements are unnecessary and costly. They left it to America aviation suppliers to do the required testing. The American suppliers did sample testing, factory tours, audits, and made the mistake of trusting the rest to the Chinese. I’ve been to China with General Electric. I am not a fan of the PRC Chinese. They are dishonest.
Can I have an apology or an understanding for my inclination to bash and not trust Chinese liars?
If true, that's an amazing fact.
Didn’t another carrier loss a nose cowl not too long ago? I’ve been in fact maintenance for 37 yrs and I’ve seen assemblies, mostly reversers, come back from vendor overhaul that were crap.
It could have been much, much worse. The crew and passengers are lucky to be alive.
Okay. No problem.
See diagrams at the link.
Almost all pure jets use a straight through system. Look at where the air comes in, walk around it, and you’ll see where the air comes out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Components_of_jet_engines
There are some turboprops where the exhaust isn’t in-line usually angled out toward the side or downward
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboprop
For a good view of where the exhaust comes out, see about the 2:25 point on this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S88FsFE5EE
Yep, as explained in an excellent manner in #18, but isn’t the housing made of steel?
My motivation to bash the Chinese is laid out in #148. I am prejudiced for good reason.
Excellent input. Thank you.
See #18 for an excellent description of the metal composition.
Why I am prejudiced against PRC Chinese is laid out in #148.
Sinister chemtrail conspiracy theories do not need to be dispelled because anyone that believes those fluffy swirling lines are anything but vapor from jet fuel combustion will not listen to us attempting to set them straight.
Where does all the exhaust from 200 metric meters of fuel go? I don’t understand, and just asking an honest question.
JetAir goes into the front intake scoop, mixes with the jet fuel, is ignited and shoots straight out of the back as hot exhaust through the nozzle.
1. a stream of a liquid, gas, or small solid particles forcefully shooting forth from a nozzle, orifice, etc.
2. something that issues in such a stream, as water or gas.
3. a spout or nozzle for emitting liquid or gas:
In this photo the nozzle was blown off. I hope you know that not all of the fuel is used all at once. Your question, "(w)here does all the exhaust from 200 metric meters of fuel go" makes it seem as if you may not understand that the fuel is consumed gradually just the way your automobile consumes fuel for the whole length of the trip.
Yep, as posted in #18 and several others. But other parts of the failure cascade could be steel and yes, I have an ax to grind with PRC Chinese as explained in #148.
The pilot is a former fighter pilot she is a HERO..the passenger that died is ID’d as Jennifer Riordan of New Mexico, she was an executive at Wells Fargo..she leaves behind 2 children..may she RIP
Woops, the exhaust is not shown in this photo. This is the intake end of the engine. The exhaust nozzle is under the wing.
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