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FBI raids the office of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen
CNBC ^ | April 9, 2018 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 04/09/2018 1:24:44 PM PDT by gattaca

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To: elhombrelibre

Your story has grown tiresome.


261 posted on 04/10/2018 6:04:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Sorry. I like history and biographies. I’m not much in to fantasy and wishful-thinking projections like Trump-worship. Which I assume is happening when some “conservatives” who support Trump prefer. In short, I accept that those who are mesmerized by Trump are willing to put Trump ahead of law and traditional conservatism because they were bamboozled by a celebrity horndog pretending to be a conservative. Well, at least these principled conservatives didn’t waste their vote on pastor or Christian or a person who was a conservative five years ago.


262 posted on 04/10/2018 6:16:48 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Well, I site facts. I cite have cited over the years Trump’s biography, his mercurial style, his Liberalism of longstanding, his kids Liberalism, his lecherous life style that he documented in his books, and much, much more that is factually true. Slam the Jews if you wish. I’m just citing Trump’s words, behavior, and likely law-breaking. Admittedly, I put conservatism ahead of pretending Trump is above law and our values. Maybe that’s because I was a conservative 40 years before Trump.


263 posted on 04/10/2018 6:21:53 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Facts as you view them... Lying Ted Cruz is not eligible to hold the office of President per the ‘original intent’ of our Constitution... but that sure did not stop the holier than thou jerks in shoving his lying deceptive BS in our faces... You have no clue what ‘conservatism’ is suppose to be.... God, Family and Country. You would not have the first clue in what God says He ‘hates’. You want the blessing from God then do not dilute His plan with Cuban Canadian citizens. You are no conservative but are delusional.


264 posted on 04/10/2018 6:29:04 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Starboard
If you remove/fire a couple of the resisters the rest of the resistance quickly gets the message that the new sherrif will not tolerate those who attempt to oppose and/or thwart his agenda. Its Management 101.

Is this not your comment/statement? Trump is surrounded by corrupt collusive traitors. And not just a few. In case you missed it, the swamp is deep.

Btw, did everyone, "Get the message" when Trump fired Comey?

265 posted on 04/11/2018 8:23:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
A couple of things for you to re-read and consider:

1. In case you missed it, the swamp is deep.

No, you missed it. Three (3) days ago (that would be April 9 if you want to look it up) I said the following to you: “Back when Trump was elected I posted many comments to the effect of how difficult it was going to be to drain the vast and very deep Swamp. I went so far as to say it was an ocean, not a swamp." I was unmistakebly clear about the Swamp being deep.

2. On the following day (April 10) you made the strange and unsubstantiated comment to me that “I get it, you want Trump to fire everyone.” Again, you were completely ignoring things that I had said just moments before in a post:

I specifically and clearly said: “Trump should have fired a few people by now”. Clearly I did not say “everyone”.

I also said he should “start the process of removing a couple of the key obstructors". Again I clearly said a “couple”. And by the way, Comey is only ONE person; it takes more than one shovel of dirt to dig a hole.

What is it about a “few” and a “couple” that you don’t understand? How much clearer could I be? I get it: you are locked in to a particular view. But if you’re going to have a dialogue with someone you at least owe them the respect of not misquoting them.

There is no sense in having a conversation or debate when one party is not listening. I am happy to have an exchange of ideas and views, and consider the opinions of others, but I’m not going to waste time repeating myself.

266 posted on 04/12/2018 6:30:23 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard
If you remove/fire a couple of the resisters the rest of the resistance quickly gets the message that the new sherrif will not tolerate those who attempt to oppose and/or thwart his agenda. Its Management 101.

You keep suggesting the deep state will roll over and everyone will get in line and behave themselves if Trump fires a couple people. You said they'll all get in line after that. But that's already happened and the insiders/deep state, only doubled down.

Did they all get in line after Sally Yates was fired?

Did they all get in line after Comey was fired?

These are two examples and there are more. Why did they all not get the, "Message" and fall in line"?

267 posted on 04/12/2018 9:34:35 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Did they all get in line after Sally Yates was fired?

Did they all get in line after Comey was fired?

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Yates was acting AG for only 10 days before she was fired for insubordination. Trump did what any president or manager would be forced to do when anyone refuses to carry out their orders. She was anti-Trump for sure, but I wouldn’t consider her as a key player in the subversive cabal that is trying to surrepticiously undermine Trump. There are bigger fish to fry.

As for Comey, his removal was an imperative but it was just taking one brick out of the wall. It will take a few more before the structure starts to weaken.

Trump’s mistake is that he allowed too many Obama holdovers to linger in his administration. Leaving them in place allowed them to leak, impede, and generally undermine his agenda.


268 posted on 04/13/2018 10:53:53 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

Good grief...Ya really think the deep state and their D.C. crowns of corruption will roll over do ya? The same corrupt spook agencies who were basically running D.C. and calling the shots? Ya say all Trump has to do is fire a couple of them and they’ll all get in line like good kids?

You’re a very naive individual.


269 posted on 04/13/2018 7:25:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You’re a very naive individual.

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I’ve noticed that you seem to have a quick draw when it comes to making personal attacks. Its unfortunate that you prefer to sling cheap shots rather than engage in a constructive dialogue based on cogent arguments.

I’m still waiting to hear how you concluded that I wanted Trump to “fire everyone” which was a gross misrepresenation of what I said. It seems that you prefer “barking from the sidelines” as you like to say.


270 posted on 04/14/2018 8:28:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard
You stated all it would take to get the entrenched collusive dark state to get in line and be nice to Trump is to fire a "Couple of people". Trump did that and they doubled down. You said it, stating these career spooks and corrupt leftist extremist politicians will ALL get the message and fall in line, if only Trump would fire a few of them. Like Comey got the message...Right??☺

Get real. Again, if ya believe all that Pollyanna BS, you're a very naive individual.

271 posted on 04/14/2018 9:38:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
To repeat, yet again, I said Trump needed to “start the process of removing a couple of the key obstructors".

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Rod Rosenweasel is still in his job. He is still in a key position as the de facto AG. He is a key obstructor who is still blocking congress’ requests for documents and the performance of its lawful investigations. As you probably know, Nunes threated a contempt of Congress resolution and subpoenas for Rosenweasel and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

Trump haters and cabal operatives Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page are still working for the FBI (albeit in different positions) and reportedly still have their top secret clearances. What kind of message does that send to other resistors in the organization?

The forthcoming IG report will likely identify more key obstructors (Obama holdovers) who have stonewalled, lied and concealed information.

Removing Comey and McCabe were significant steps, but just a start toward removing the infestation. It will take the removal of a couple more high value targets (read: key obstructors) like Rosenweasel and his fellow travelers for the corrupt resisters to get the message that they are no longer in control.

Trump hasn’t removed enough key people yet to achieve the desired results. I think firing Rosenweasel would send a very loud message.

272 posted on 04/16/2018 8:48:19 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard
To repeat, yet again, I said Trump needed to “start the process of removing a couple of the key obstructors".

I guess the Director of the FBI and others don't rate in your naive world. Again, if ya think the vicious corrupt entrenched deep state will get the message, roll over and play nice with Trump if only he fires a couple of them, you're a naive dreamer.

273 posted on 04/16/2018 8:52:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Starboard
I think you're a political poser. You tell me Trump only needs fire a couple of people, but then after a cursory search, I find you stated this below:

Trump could have removed a lot of the Obama appointees who are still in their jobs, obstructing Trump at every turn. At a bare minimum, the upper layers of DOJ and State should have been cleaned out

So which is it? Just a couple of people or a lot of people? Entire upper layers of Departments at DOJ and the State Department??

Trump told you and everyone else he went into this trying to bring everyone together to work together as the country was so divided. If he'd walked in and did what you suggested, firing nearly everyone in sight. it would have been seen as political war, confrontational, radical, extreme etc. The media would be dancing etc...

274 posted on 04/16/2018 9:36:07 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Starboard
If Trump went into this firing agency officials and all the upper level people in multiple agencies, it would precipitate a political firestorm, ignite a media circus, and probably cause some serious social unrest. It would also turn those officials into sympathetic figures, if not political martyrs. The reality of the consequences would be just too great and disruptive.

Btw Starboard, do the above words look familiar to you?☺

275 posted on 04/16/2018 10:00:07 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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