Famous Bible Verse Too Sizzling for Facebook

World Net Daily ^ | 2/26/2018 | Bob Unruh

[Maudeen]

Social-media giant waits 5 years before taking action.

[Maudeen]

Just another sign of the times.

[Bratch]

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." KJV

- Leviticus 18:22

[tomkat]

The PA judge gives this thread a 2.1  :-\

[Yosemitest]

They probably can NOT tolerate MANY Bible verses.
Their hearts BURN with RAGE when the truth hits their brain !

Lets start with Romans 1:16-32.

For I am NOT ASHAMED of the gospel of Christ:
for it is the power of God unto salvation
to every one that believeth;
to the Jew first,
and also to the Greek.
For THEREIN IS the righteousness of God
revealed FROM faith
TO faith:
as it is written,
The just shall live by faith.

You might want to take a look at Habakkuk 2:1-9, and especially verse 4.
Don't miss the importance of this because the rest of this information FROM GOD, is built on the understanding of this part in Romans 1:16-17.
Now, on to the next great information.

For the WRATH of God is revealed FROM heaven
AGAINST ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN,
who HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
Because THAT WHICH MAY BE KNOWN of God
IS MANIFEST IN THEM;
for God HATH SHEWED IT UNTO THEM.

That last part is very important.
How many times must God warn them?
You might want to take a read of Luke 8:1-21 to understand why some people just will NOT listen and OBEY.
But on to the next part.

For THE INVISIBLE THINGS of him
from the creation of the world
ARE CLEARLY SEEN,
being understood BY the things THAT ARE MADE,
even his eternal power and Godhead;
so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE:
Because that,
WHEN THEY KNEW GOD,
THEY glorified him NOT AS GOD,
NEITHER were thankful;
but BECAME VAIN IN THEIR IMAGINATIONS,
and THEIR FOOLISH HEART was DARKENED .

There is so much to cover hear, but the order which God has stated it in the Bible must not be ignored.
Think of microscopic when you read " the invisible things", but that's not the ONLY interpretation to be considered.
But it should help you to grasp the meaning"are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made".
"Became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened" is a very good insight on HOW this ABOMINATION starts.
But don't forget the verses before that, because they have been pointing out HOW the "homosexuals" got to this point in their destruction.
Now we start a more rapid destruction of their mind and heart with the next verses.

PROFESSING THEMSELVES TO BE wise,
THEY BECAME FOOLS ,
And CHANGED THE GLORY OF THE UNCORRUPTIBLE GOD
INTO AN IMAGE
MADE LIKE TO CORRUPTIBLE MAN,
and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Wherefore God ALSO GAVE THEM UP TO UNCLEANNESS THROUGH THE LUSTS OF THEIR OWN HEARTS,
TO DISHONOUR THEIR OWN BODIES between themselves:
Who CHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD INTO A LIE,
and WORSHIPPED
and SERVED the creature MORE THAN THE CREATOR ,
who is blessed for ever.
Amen.

Now it's becoming clear that there are MANY steps down the path to destruction, that these individuals have taken.
Some more insight can be found in Genesis 19 about just how evil and destructive homosexuals really are.
So, we continue with verses 26 and 27 of Romans 1.

FOR THIS CAUSE
GOD GAVE THEM UP UNTO VILE AFFECTION:
for even THEIR WOMEN DID CHANGE the NATURAL USE
into that WHICH IS AGAINST NATURE:
And likewise ALSO THE MEN,
LEAVING THE NATURAL USE OF THE WOMEN,
BURNED IN THEIR LUST one toward another;
men with men WORKING THAT WHICH IS UNSEEMLY,
and RECEIVING IN THEMSELVES THAT RECOMPENCE OF THEIR ERROR
which was meet.

Now you can see that God "gave them up", or in other words, He quit trying to convince them, that His WAYS were life-giving,
and allowed them to go their own way.
Their error would be a very strong lesson to all who will see, that it does lead to death.
Read again about meat and milk as far as spiritual knowledge goes.
Now God has laid this information out for us in a certain order for a reason, and that reason is the choice between Life or Death.
Lets finish this.

And even as THEY DID NOT LIKE TO RETAIN GOD IN THEIR KNOWLEDGE ,
GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND,
TO DO THOSE THINGSs which are NOT convenient;
BEING FILLED with ALL unrighteousness,
fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness;
FULL of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity;
whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God,
despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things,
disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers,
without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who KNOWING THE JUDGMENT OF GOD,
that THEY WICH COMMIT SUCH THINGS
ARE WORTHY OF DEATH,
NOT ONLY DO THE SAME,
BUT HAVE PLEASURE
IN THEM THAT DO THEM .

Homosexual perversion is NOT a NATURAL punitive response to something else.
It's a GOD GIVEN PUNISHMENT

(a MARK in their head {or mind}, in their hand {or actions}, and in their heart {or what they love} ),

and it IS a Satanic DELUSION for the homosexual to THINK that God had nothing to do with it.

Have you not read the Book of Job ?
It will help you to understand
that Satan
has to have PERMISSION from our Heavenly Father
to do damage.

So in closing, we've covered THE CAUSE that God gave them over to a REPROBATE MIND.

Homosexuals aren't "born that way".
They had to "EARN their REPROBATE MIND" by refusing God ~ not once, ~ not twice, ~ but THREE times!

You need to not only read, BUT STUDY this link
I especially agree with its last paragraph.

" The Church NEVER can and NEVER will give satisfaction—
and the homosexualist knows it,
for he knows the words against him are INERADICABLE
—to the declared and impenitent homosexual,
the person who, through an act of the vermiculate will,
has identified his person with a sin,
whether HE DEMANDS ACCEPTANCE OF HIS SIN
through "love,"
or VINDICATION
THROUGH IDENTIFICATION OF HIS PERCEIVED ENEMIES AS BIGOTS.
Whether HE PRESENTS HIMSELF as an object of love or indignation,
what HE DEMANDS in either case IS ACCEPTANCE
not of the person,
but OF THE SIN-bound and SIN-DEFINED person.
HE DEMANDS the declaration of SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY that
THERE IS NOTHING OBJECTIVELY DISORDERED about this BINDING OF MAN TO SIN,
and ASSURANCE that THIS MONSTROUS AMALGAM can indeed ENTER the kingdom of heaven.
This can NEVER HAPPEN among Christians UNTIL THEY ABANDON Christianity,
WHICH IS AT WAR WITH EVERY SIN,
and whose indelible constitution
places ALL PERVERSIONS of the perfect man
AT THE MUZZLE of its canons. "

There will be NO HOMOSEXUALS ( NOT ONE ) in the afterlife.
They WILL BE ASHES UNDER the soles of your feet ! ! !

[tomkat]

.. not to mention that the keywords seem to be metastasizing .. ohnoes !

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Mr. McKellan cannot hide from God. He is acting stupidly.

[Blue Collar Christian]

It sure is handy to edit the Word of God. That way you can’t be found with sin in your life because you removed His word saying what you do is sin.

Freaking Mensa brilliance.

[unlearner]

“Homosexuals aren’t ‘born that way’.
They had to ‘EARN their REPROBATE MIND’ by refusing God ~ not once, ~ not twice, ~ but THREE times!”

Powerful message and great post. However, I do want to draw your attention to the fact that homosexuality is distinguished in Romans 1 from reprobation. This demonstrates that homosexual lust and activity is NOT the ultimate perversion called a “reprobate mind” in the KJV.

Some theologians debate whether anyone can ever recover from reprobation. My opinion is that it can and has happened, but is exceedingly rare.

One thing is clear though. Societies down through history that came to accept homosexuality as normative were ultimately destroyed because of it. And America is now at this stage. In fact, most of the world, for the first time in history, is at this stage or nearly to it. So the world is about to face the judgment Christ said matched the perversions that occurred in the days of Noah and of Sodom.

This perversion is manifest when there is an attempt to enter into sexual relations with angels. (This happened in the days of Noah and of Sodom, and represents the extreme nature of the homosexual or otherwise perverted sexuality of the people during those times.)

[BradyLS]

Upload choice quotes from the Koran and see if they come down!

Betcha you could put ones that say the same or such and no way would they take ‘em down!

[Southside_Chicago_Republican]

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[Puckster]

Matthew 12:31-32 — “Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come.

Even homosexuals have reason to repent...if they have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

I hate homosexuality as much as any sin, but, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is...the end of the line.

This a note of consideration for inclusion into everyone’s prayers and studying to show yourselves to be approved.

We all have only one shot at this. Except those that have blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

[SoConPubbie]

Well stated Yosemitest!

[Bob434]

only the unsaved can commit blasphemy of Holy spirit- The Christian can not- blasphemy is an unforgiving sin/lifestyle of opposition to God/Christ, however, when a person is born again, He is forgiven of all sins so that he becomes sinless in the sight of the Lord- IF he could commit blasphemy later in life- obviously he could not have been forgiven of all sins at the point of salvation- IF he were able to later commit blasphemy, then He was NOT seen as sinless in the sight of the Lord, and he could never have gained salvation in the first place- The seal of salvation can not be broken- not even by us-

“him that cometh to me (Jesus) I will in no wise cast out.”

“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him” (John 6:44), and “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away”

Blasphemy can only be committed by the unsaved who affirm their final rejection of Christ by blaspheming the Holy Spirit- They were never saved- A Christian certainly can not come to a ‘final rejection’ because the ACCEPTED Christ at the point of Salvation- the unsaved person never did

Mark 3:29 says, “whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin”

Note carefully that it says they WILL NEVER BE forgiven- The saved person has been forgiven- the unsaved who blasphemies will never be forgiven

But yes, we should all still study to show ourselves approved unto God- Our goal is to be conformed to the image of Christ- however, our salvation does not rest on anything we do or don’t do once we are saved-

[Bob434]

one more quick point for those who might be worried about whether or not they are capable of blasphemy- most pharisees were blatant blasphemers- living lives of blatant sustained and public blasphemy of the Holy Spirit- They could never be saved or forgiven- Paul was a pharisee who none-the-less never committed blasphemy and later became saved- God was able to save Paul because Paul had never committed that particular sin as an unsaved person, and so God was able to save him later in his life- IF however an unsaved person commits blasphemy, he can never be saved- He willfully and permanently rejects the saving power of Christ

[Yosemitest]

I'm not interested in the rhetoric of theologians.
I'll stick with the Bible.

"... the fact that homosexuality is distinguished in Romans 1 from reprobation."

You're straining at a gnat.
Read Romans 1:28 of the King James Version (KJV) again.


Read the Etymology of "reprobation (n.)" and it will link you to the Etymology of reprobate (adj.) and reprobate (n.)
The difference ain't worth talking about.

Now research in the Bible, the word REPROBATE and it will take you to:

1. Jeremiah 6:30 King James Version (KJV)

2. Romans 1:28 King James Version (KJV)

3. 2 Corinthians 13:5 King James Version (KJV)

4. 2 Corinthians 13:6 King James Version (KJV)

5. 2 Corinthians 13:7 King James Version (KJV)

6. 2 Timothy 3:8 King James Version (KJV)

7. Titus 1:16 King James Version (KJV)

But let's continue with your comment.

"One thing is clear though.
Societies down through history that came to accept homosexuality as normative
were ultimately destroyed
because of it.
And America is now at this stage.
In fact, most of the world, for the first time in history, is at this stage
or nearly to it. "

I agree in general with that statement.
Read Jeremiah 7, all of it, and know who the Houses of Ephraim and Manasseh are TODAY !

"So the world is about to face the judgment Christ said
matched the perversions that occurred in the days of Noah and of Sodom."

Well ... don't forget... "it will be WORSE THAN IT EVER WAS !

" For then shall be GREAT tribulation,
such as was NOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD
TO THIS TIME ,
no,
NOR EVER SHALL BE."

[Yosemitest]

My link to "meat and milk" had an error, so this one is corrected.
Here is one expanded comment on it.

Remember:

" Verily I say unto you,
Whatsoever ye shall BIND on earth
SHALL BE BOUND in heaven:
and whatsoever ye shall LOOSE on earth
SHALL BE LOOSED in heaven. "

So be careful of what you forgive, and ~ of what you "BIND" .

And also remember:

" ... seeing ye are dull of hearing.
For when for the time YE OUGHT TO BE teachers,
YE HAVE NEED THAT ONE TEACH YOU AGAIN
which be the first principles of the oracles of God;
and ARE BECOME SUCH AS HAVE NEED OF MILK,
AND NOT STRONG MEAT.
For EVERY ONE THAT USETH MILK IS UNSKILFUL IN THE WORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS:
for he is a babe.
But STRONG MEAT BELONGETH TO THEM THAT ARE OF FULL AGE,
even those who
by reason of use
have their senses exercised TO DISCERN
BOTH GOOD AND EVIL. "

[unlearner]

“Even homosexuals have reason to repent...if they have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit.”

Agreed. My point is in fact that homosexuality is not the final and irrecoverable state of sin. Indeed the Bible attests that some homosexuals do repent unto salvation:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the opposite of “calling upon the name of the Lord”. Calling on the name of the Lord is how a person is saved. But this is often misunderstood as merely saying the “sinners’ prayer”. A believer is, by definition, one who calls (ongoing) upon the name of the Lord Jesus.

Can an unbeliever call Jesus Lord?

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

A person can say the word “Lord” to describe Jesus, but he or she can not truly call Him Lord from a heartfelt belief without the enablement of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can be grieved. He can be quenched. And worst of all, He can be blasphemed. The Holy Spirit will come to a place in which He will “no longer strive with man”. This is a truly terrifying testimony because without His operation in the human truly calling on the name of the Lord for salvation is an impossibility.

[unlearner]

“I’m not interested in the rhetoric of theologians. I’ll stick with the Bible... You’re straining at a gnat.”

That is a very confrontational response you are using to someone who basically agreed with you other than a small BUT important issue. Jesus said these words (i.e. “straining at a gnat”) to His enemies who were trying to murder Him.

“Read Romans 1:28 of the King James Version (KJV) again.”

Verses 26 and 27 refer to homosexual lust and sexual activity. These come BEFORE verse 28.

So, as I said homosexuality is NOT the same thing as a reprobate mind.

A reprobate mind is even worse than that particular sexual perversion.

Rightly dividing the word of truth is not straining at a gnat.

Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Notice how it describes “every good work” in this verse.

As in Romans 1, a reprobate is devoted to evil. A reprobate is completely turned upside down in his or her thinking and perception of morality. A reprobate, according to this text, is “filled with all unrighteousness”. They are not struggling with sin but delight in it, and devote themselves to it. Certainly this includes sexual perversions such as homosexuality, but it also includes other sins like murder and rebellion.

There are homosexual people who are still trying to do good deeds and seek to please God. Romans 1 describes those in this state as worshipping and serving the creation more than the Creator. It is not that they do not attempt to serve or please God. They simply care more for the pleasures of the world than God. Of course their religion and good deeds will avail them nothing without repentance and submission the Gospel of Christ. But there is a very important distinction between people in this state, who sometimes do respond to the Gospel (see 1 Corinthians 6:11) and those who are reprobate and eternal enemies of the Gospel.

Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.

This describes a specific transition by an individual or group from engaging in sexual perversion to reprobation. It is the true nature of atheism, which is not really a skepticism or denial of God’s existence but more of a hatred and contempt for it. Homosexuality, as you have correctly described it, is a judgment from God. It is also a final warning for an individual or group, such as a nation, that the final stage of moral decline before destruction has already happened. Reprobation is that final stage.

Peter describes them thus:

2 Peter 2:2-3
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

What is promised here is “swift destruction”.

In the cases of the days of Sodom and the days of Noah, which Christ compared to the last days before His return, humans were engaging in, or attempting to engage in, sexual activity with angels. This can only be categorized as “reprobation” and leaves nothing but impending doom. Noah typifies the extent of the coming destruction of the world—in totality. Sodom typifies the type of the final destruction—with fire.

[Yosemitest]

"So, as I said homosexuality is NOT the same thing as a reprobate mind.
A reprobate mind is even worse than that particular sexual perversion."

I disagree !
And I have backed it up with the Bible.

What hath the LORD answered ?
What hath the LORD spoken ?
What hath God said that they which commit such things are worthy of ?
Whom shall the homosexuals' blood be upon ?
What did God say that the land will do to those who commit their abominations ?
What did God say would happen to their VERY SOULS, who commit such abominations ?

Read Exodus 18:13-27 and 1 Corinthians 6:1-11, and think on it for a few days.

[unlearner]

“I disagree ! And I have backed it up with the Bible.”

Look, I did not comment to you to pick a fight or start an argument.

I’m just a man and make mistakes. I will allow for the possibility that I am wrong and you are right. But, as it stands, my understanding of the term “reprobate” as used in the Bible is that it is referring to something that is beyond homosexuality alone. Yes, it can include and may operate as a continuation of this abomination, but it is also something more.

I did provide my scriptural basis, but if it was unclear I will restate it and elaborate:

Romans 1:25-27
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Verses 25-27 explain that homosexuality happens as a consequence of people exchanging the truth of God for the lie and worshipping the creation more than the Creator.

A pattern emerges in this passage in which the ungodly and unrighteous “they” receive judgments which place them into four distinct conditions or states of being...

1) a diminished capacity to understand spiritual things (i.e. foolish and darkened heart), and futile creativity (i.e. vain imaginations).

This progressed (due to unrepentance) to a particular kind of foolish and vain course of action...

2) sexual lust and unclean sexual acts

Unclean sexual acts include various things, such as heterosexual sex when the woman is menstruating. But (again due to unrepentance) this progressed to a further type of unlean sexual behavior...

3) homosexual lust and sexual activity

And (due to continued unrepentance) this progressed into...

4) A reprobate mind.

We see this in the remaining verses:

Romans 1:28-31
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful.

Notice that homosexuals are being described in verses 25-27, and those with a reprobate mind are being described in verses 28-31.

The precursors to each of the four conditions I described are...

1) Unthankfulness. Pride. Failing to give God the glory He is due. (vv 21-22)

2) idolatry in various stages and extremes (v 23)

3) rejection of a Biblical theology (i.e. knowledge of who God is) as well as the Bible (the Word is truth), and a type of idolatry that makes the creation more important than the Creator (but does not necessarily exclude the Creator entirely) (v 25)

4) resisting and fighting against the very thought of God (v 28)

As you have pointed out in your original post, homosexuality is a divine judgment and consequence of specific acts of disobedience to God.

My only point was to distinguish between those who are homosexual but not necessarily totally reprobate in their minds. And the reason I think this is important is because there are homosexuals who know their lusts and desires are shameful, and they desire to change. God intends to use this shame and guilt to drive them to the cross.

However, if they harden their hearts to God’s grace and mercy, they will eventually become militant homosexuals, or practitioners of other forms of sexual deviancy along with many other wicked things like murder.

Contextually, the Gospel message is still for even those who have sunk into the abominable practices of homosexual lust and sex.

And those who have not done these deeds must humble themselves and come in the same manner to the same cross for forgiveness. For there is no difference between the “we” of chapter 3, the “you” of chapter 2, or the “they” of chapter 1. See 3:22-23.