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The Truth About AR-15 Rifles and Mass Shootings
Barbwire ^ | 23 February 2018 | Mark Landsbaum

Posted on 02/23/2018 1:08:12 PM PST by fwdude

Everyone should agree to ban AR-15s. That was the conclusion of a recent article in the Atlantic magazine by a radiologist who was shocked by the bodily damage revealed in a CT scan of one of the victims of the mass murder at Florida’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

The first tip-off that this was an emotion-driven, rather than fact-based argument was that this expert doctor admitted he had seen a grand total of two wounds with that “specific pattern of injury” in his entire medical experience.

The second tip-off that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about was his foolish – and wrong – claim: “AR-15 rifles is the common denominator in many mass shootings.”

The cold, hard facts from the FBI, sans emotive hand-wringing, are that rifles of any type are one of the least-used murder weapons in the U.S. The vast majority of U.S. murders are committed with handguns, not rifles.

As Sean Davis reports in the Federalist, the FBI says only 2.2 percent of murders in the U.S. over the last five years were committed with rifles. And the AR-15 amounted to only a fraction of the 2.2 percent.

In fact, shotguns accounted for 2.1 percent of murders. Shall we ban them too?

But wait. That’s not all. Knives were used in 11.9 percent of all murders. That’s five times more than all rifles.

In fact, more people are killed by hands, fists or feet (5.1 percent) than with all types of rifles, let alone AR-15s. No one will propose banning hands, fists and feet. It’s already illegal to use them that way.

If all rifles were outlawed, it might stop a tiny fraction of murders, or not, but it certainly wouldn’t keep lawbreakers from obtaining the banned rifles. That’s why we call them lawbreakers.

Why hasn’t it occurred to this doctor and the Left’s wannabe gun banners that they could save far more lives by outlawing knives? Because it would be ridiculous. Just like banning AR-15s.

Obviously, even banning all rifles would not “drastically reduce the incidence of mass murders,” as this ill-informed doctor contends. But hey, why worry about facts when emotions are in play?

As wiser, if less emotional, people note every time there’s a mass shooting, “Evil cannot be regulated away.”

Someone intent on murder, and on murder on a large scale, will not be deterred by laws or by bans. Notice the acid attacks and vehicular slaughter in Europe where guns are heavily restricted. And, oh yeah, they still use illegally obtained guns there too.

The admittedly pro-gun website, Extrano’s Alley, notes that the percentage of criminals who legally buy a gun and commit a crime with it is probably “a fraction of one percent of those who commit a gun-related crime.”

“[T]he overwhelming majority of professional criminals will use stolen ‘street guns’ that are cheap but very definitely illegal.”

Repeated studies indicate only 6 to 8 percent of all murders are committed with weapons legally purchased by the killer, bought from dealers after filling out extensive paperwork, providing identification and submitting to FBI background checks. Most of those murders are domestic violence, crimes of passion or committed by insane people.

Professional criminals, who account for the other 90 percent-plus, buy their guns on the street avoiding the legal niceties.

If you want to look for commonality in the reason these murderers murder, look at their upbringing, who they associate with, their family life or lack of it. Or as Ron Paul points out, “at least ten high profile mass shootings have been committed by individuals who ‘were either on — or just recently coming off of — psychiatric medications.’ The young killer in Florida was no different. According to his aunt, he had been on these medications to treat mental problems.”

Next you might want to check for what these murderers don’t have. Ask how many of them were professing Christians?

Finally, for those who think it’s America’s cowboy gun culture that’s the culprit, think again. Wait just a minute, you might protest, aren’t there are about 33,000 gun deaths a year in the U.S.?

But more than two-thirds of those are suicides and accidents, not murders. In 2011, of the 8,583 actual gun murders, a scant 323 were committed with all varieties of rifles, including bolt-action and hunting rifles.

That’s 323 in a nation of 326,000,000. Even then, only a fraction of the 323 were committed with what wannabe gun banners call “assault rifles.”

An editorial in Investor’s Business Daily reports: “…. a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn’t lead the world in mass shootings.”

Got that? The U.S. doesn’t lead the world.

“In fact, it doesn’t even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings,” the editorial notes.

Norway leads the world with a mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million. No. 2 is Serbia, at 0.381, followed by France, Macedonia, Albania, Slovakia, Finland, Belgium and Czech Republic follow. All of them among the Left’s European darlings.

The U.S. comes in at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

To top it off, there were also 27% more casualties from 2009 to 2015 per mass shooting incident in the European Union than in the U.S. Allow me to reiterate: The U.S. DOESN’T lead the world.

But in 2016 didn’t Barack Obama tearfully complain that “we are the only advanced country on Earth that sees this kind of mass violence erupt with this kind of frequency. It doesn’t happen in other advanced countries. It’s not even close.”

Are you surprised he was wrong? Do you think he was misinformed? Or do you suspect he intended to misinform you? Why would he do that? But why do some people insist “AR-15 rifles is the common denominator in many mass shootings”? In both cases the appeal was emotional – and the facts wrong.

Bottom line: government bans and restrictions on guns (see those European darlings) won’t change what’s wrong with the hearts and minds of vicious evil doers determined to commit murder. Until those hearts are changed, the best defense is to be armed. Virtually no mass murders with any type of weapon are committed in places where the targets are armed. Evil doers are not crazy. They don’t go hunting where they have reason to believe they will be killed in self-defense by their intended “victims.”

Arm school guards and teachers with guns, and teach them to use them. Then post this notice on the marquee and on every classroom door: “We are armed for self-defense.” It’s guaranteed to dissuade mass murderers who will go elsewhere to find a gun-free zone.


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Some eye opening FACTS that the left doesn't want to face. I had no idea about most of these numbers.
1 posted on 02/23/2018 1:08:12 PM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude
SCARY BLACK "ASSAULT RIFLE"

AR-15

NOT A SCARY BLACK "ASSAULT RIFLE"

M1-A


2 posted on 02/23/2018 1:16:43 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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To: fwdude


3 posted on 02/23/2018 1:22:32 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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To: fwdude

What does this “truth” thing have to do with dims wanting to confiscate all guns and then trash the Constitution?


4 posted on 02/23/2018 1:23:21 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: fwdude
Interesting article. But I wonder if Mark Landsbaum read the Atlantic article. In his article he refers many times to the doctor in the Atlantic article as "he."

The author of the Atlantic article, as you can see by following that link, is named Heather Sher. Not exactly a "he" unless, of course Heather identifies as male.

5 posted on 02/23/2018 1:26:12 PM PST by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

I cannot see that guy’s name without thinking of the DI in the movie “Full Metal Jacket”...


6 posted on 02/23/2018 1:28:20 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette)
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To: upchuck; fwdude

I started to read it, and just stopped. It was completely an emotionally driven diatribe.

I am sick of it. I couldn’t even finish the article.


7 posted on 02/23/2018 1:29:51 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette)
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It sounds like the doctor’s complaint was with the 5.56mm cartridge. Does he even know it can be fired from other firearms, including bolt action rifles and even handguns?


8 posted on 02/23/2018 1:37:22 PM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: fwdude

Then there’s THIS inconvenient factoid.

At least 26 killed in mass shooting at Texas church
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/05/mass-shooting-reported-at-texas-sutherland-springs-church.html

That is, until a good guy with an AR-15 stopped him.


9 posted on 02/23/2018 1:38:47 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

This on is tan ... is it less scary?

10 posted on 02/23/2018 1:41:12 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

“There was a rumor of a tumor”

Kinky


11 posted on 02/23/2018 1:45:59 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing! Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a doctor and I won't touch that thing)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

That M1A is a SOCOM 16 and I doubt it is accurate out to 800 yards. It is more of a CQB weapon. Springfield Armory just came out with an M1A in 6.5 Creedmoor which is very accurate out to 1000 yards.


12 posted on 02/23/2018 1:51:16 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Spok

I doubt it. She likely knows absolutely nothing about firearms themselves. When I read it, it just reeks of everything coming from the Left on this subject.


13 posted on 02/23/2018 1:58:09 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette)
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To: rlmorel

lol Seriously. My first thought.


14 posted on 02/23/2018 2:04:58 PM PST by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

With the right load and the right shooter, the M1 can be very effective to at least 1200 yards. Some say even further.

Probably not with iron sights only.

30-06 is still a very incredible cartridge.


15 posted on 02/23/2018 2:10:54 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: fwdude
"...radiologist who was shocked by the bodily damage revealed..."

Friends, remember not to shoot people, throw them off of overpasses or run over them with vehicles. Okay?


16 posted on 02/23/2018 2:21:57 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

And, if I’m remembering correctly, it was students (and possibly some faculty) who, after realizing what was happening, retrieved their own weapons from their vehicles and laid down suppressing fire that kept the turd from injuring additional people and allowed the police to rush the tower and take him down.


17 posted on 02/23/2018 2:22:03 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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To: SVTCobra03

Actually, it’s a Scout model. Kinda splits the difference between SOCOM and M1A standard.


18 posted on 02/23/2018 2:26:04 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: NorthMountain
Semi-automatic...fires each time you pull the string. Designed to kill as many as possible in the quickest time.

6

19 posted on 02/23/2018 2:29:02 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Texas Fossil
With the right load and the right shooter, the M1 can be very effective to at least 1200 yards. Some say even further.

I much enjoy shooting mine at 400 yards. I can consistently hit a vital area on a target with the iron sights. The MI-Garand is a work of art.

20 posted on 02/23/2018 2:31:07 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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