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Douglas school cop who ‘never went in’ during shooting has resigned
Miama Herald ^ | 2/22/2018 | CHARLES RABIN, CARLI TEPROFF AND DAVID OVALLE

Posted on 02/22/2018 3:48:13 PM PST by MilesVeritatis

One week after a mass shooter Nikolas Cruz murdered 17 people inside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High, Broward's top cop on Thursday revealed a stunning series of failures by the sheriff’s department.

A school campus cop heard the gunfire, rushed to the building but never went inside – instead waiting outside for another four agonizing minutes as Cruz continued the slaughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; coward; donutwatch; florida; flschoolshooting; guard; jackass; nikolascruz; nra; outside; parkland; school; secondamendment; shooting; sro
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To: Bulwyf

About bullets fired straight up killing people when they came down= BS. Fired “artillery style” yes someone could get hurt or killed.


221 posted on 02/22/2018 11:07:55 PM PST by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: FourtySeven

I agree with every word you said.


222 posted on 02/23/2018 1:04:25 AM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: CottonBall
“He was there just for the pay, he didn’t care about protecting and saving lives.” That’s exactly what the teachers will do. They will demand extra pay if they carry a gun. And yet they would never use it. Just like they don’t actually bother to teach anything. It amazes me that so many people here think we should arm teachers. These people can’t even bother to teach our kids anything other than how to use condoms and to love diversity. Do you really want to trust these people with anything, much less educating kids and protecting them?

We're not all useless, I don't think. Some of us do still teach children and would give our lives protecting them if such a situation arose. Some of us are already CHL holders, myself included, and would not be afraid to use a gun to stop a killer. Plenty of my coworkers are retired military; I am fully confident that they could handle being among the designated armed personnel, if given the opportunity.Please don't paint all educators with such a broad brush; FReepers do that all the time and it gets pretty tiresome. There are more conservative teachers than you realize. You're welcome, by the way...I'm proud to do the job I do, thankless though it usually is.

223 posted on 02/23/2018 1:36:02 AM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I can’t judge him, having never been under fire myself. I hope if i ever am, that I’ll act the man, even if I’m pissing my pants, but you can never know ‘til it’s on. Since he did show the yellow feather, he’s wise to have quit. Some people just aren’t made to do that. Others never know they’re heroes until the time comes.


224 posted on 02/23/2018 3:02:38 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Hate that he shit himself instead of acting, but unless one has been there, and actually headed into such a hot zone, then that one is not fit to judge - we all fancy ourselves the heroic types but many discover that they been kidding themselves if ever faced with a real situation.

Whatever the guy was/is, the attack is cheap and the irony is that for all we know the Sheriff using him as a scapegoat might be the same sort of coward....

225 posted on 02/23/2018 3:21:34 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Scot Peterson, then a Broward County deputy and school resource officer, speaks in 2015 at a school board meeting.
226 posted on 02/23/2018 3:48:27 AM PST by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes indeed. Give the cowards more publicity so other people will get the idea that it’s OK to hide when the shooting starts. In war, they shoot people for that.

What is wrong with you, Dirtysecret? Do you not get that these people feed off the notoriety they get from killing? Every time something like this happens, the fame and glory go on for weeks, in the Lamestream media and social media and instead of these killers being thrown off a gallows scaffolding with a noose, or lined up against a wall, they get glorified as heroes.

You’re part of the problem when you “want photos!”


227 posted on 02/23/2018 4:00:39 AM PST by Monkey Face (Don't run with bagpipes. You'll put an aye out. Or get kilt. ~~Thanks to DC on FB~~)
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To: dsc

If the cop had just fired his gun randomly into air it would have distracted the perp and maybe saved a few kids.


228 posted on 02/23/2018 4:04:05 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: MilesVeritatis; DIRTYSECRET; dirtboy; Paladin2; Fungi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw

Today this could be Charlton Heston’s beautiful answer to CNN and their slimey ilk.

229 posted on 02/23/2018 4:08:02 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: OKSooner
Greg Klebanoff posed this on Quora:

The terminal velocity of most falling bullets is about 300 feet per second (or 204 miles per hour). After reaching that velocity they will cease accelerating and continue falling at that speed until they hit the earth. In addition, a bullet fired straight into the air does not fall nose first; rather it shifts onto its side and wobbles on its downward journey.

Three hundred feet per second is much shower than the velocity of a bullet leaving the muzzle of a gun—which is usually anywhere between 800 and 4,000 plus feet per second. Accordingly, a bullet falling straight down typically does not have sufficient energy to kill or seriously injury someone.

230 posted on 02/23/2018 4:17:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: NohSpinZone

Unfortunately neither Pompey or Tom Doniphon were there for back up.


231 posted on 02/23/2018 4:38:08 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: central_va
"The terminal velocity of most falling bullets is about 300 feet per second (or 204 miles per hour)."

Your own words.

232 posted on 02/23/2018 5:32:58 AM PST by OKSooner (Joan Rivers, RIP)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Was the school campus cop armed?

YES

233 posted on 02/23/2018 6:06:41 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: trebb
Hate that he shit himself instead of acting, but unless one has been there, and actually headed into such a hot zone, then that one is not fit to judge - we all fancy ourselves the heroic types but many discover that they been kidding themselves if ever faced with a real situation.

I've seen this asserted repeatedly. Nonsense. That was the man's DUTY. He was armed in a gun-free zone to do his damn duty. He failed his duty just as if a soldier in a "hot" zone recoiled and hid behind a stone and let his brothers do the dirty work. Very simple here: they take the job, obligation and salary - do your work.

Very simple to those of us faced or not faced with a 'real situation'. I don't get paid and am not armed to be someone's security detail. If I was and recoiled then I failed my duty. End of story.

234 posted on 02/23/2018 6:54:39 AM PST by Lent
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To: TXBlair

“There are more conservative teachers than you realize.”

Perhaps but if you were in a majority, our education system would be in MUCH better shape.

I’ve taught in Texas and California and Tennessee, and sadly, the vast majority of teachers in all those states were liberals. I blame the teacher education in the colleges - even in Texas, where I got my first certificate/credential, the education department at A&M was overwhelmingly disgustingly liberal and the students were just lapping it up.

Yes, I paint the education system with a broad brush. And I know that has to be frustrating for you. BUT I am looking at the general picture of the decline in education and in how I wouldn’t trust the majority of teachers to even teach, much less handle a weapon. I realize you are a the whim of your liberal administrators - but I’ve always contended that anyone doing a job that is impossible will move on unless they have a pension. That’s the beauty of teaching in Texas that I saw - our realtor was a former teacher and was making money hand over fist selling like crazy.

Anyway, yes I lump the entire failing education system together. You, being in the minority, just get glossed over. But - would you want every teacher in your school to be armed? Do you trust them?


235 posted on 02/23/2018 6:56:24 AM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: kabar

“Have you ever served in the military?”

10 years


236 posted on 02/23/2018 10:51:08 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

What branch of service? Did you serve in a combat zone? Have you ever been shot at?


237 posted on 02/23/2018 11:30:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

“Code of Conduct
for
Members of the United States Armed Forces”

When I was in SERE school they spent a full half day on the Code of Conduct and encouraged us all to follow it to the best of our abilities. Insisted even.

Then they set about to cause every man to violate it. And succeeded.


238 posted on 02/23/2018 11:57:38 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
When I was in SERE school they spent a full half day on the Code of Conduct and encouraged us all to follow it to the best of our abilities. Insisted even. Then they set about to cause every man to violate it. And succeeded.

When I underwent SERE training prior to going to Vietnam, we only had a few who were broken. I wasn't one of them.

239 posted on 02/23/2018 12:08:24 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Army SERE.

Try Warner Springs.


240 posted on 02/23/2018 12:12:00 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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