School shooting survivor Cameron Kasky asks Senator Marco Rubio to reject NRA money

The Guardian ^

[WayneS]

Do you have actual evidence that he came here from Russia?

[philman_36]

Not seeing any familial connection to Ohr yet.

[philman_36]

Do you have actual evidence that he came here from Russia?

No. Do you have evidence that he didn't come here from Russia?

[philman_36]

You do know about the Russian birth industry in Florida, don’t you?

[philman_36]

A New Baby Boom? Foreign 'Birth Tourists' Seek U.S. Citizenship for Children
The number of U.S. births to non-resident mothers rose 53 percent between 2000 and 2006, according to the most recent data from the National Center for Health Statistics. Total births rose 5 percent in the same period.
Among the foreigners who have given birth here, including international travelers passing through and foreign students studying at U.S. universities, are "birth tourists," women who travel to the United States with the explicit purpose of obtaining citizenship for their child.

An attempt has even been made to tie it in to POTUS!
Russians Flock to Trump Properties to Give Birth to U.S. Citizens

[philman_36]

Any other questions? You interrupted me and I’d rather get you out of the way before continuing.

[txhurl]

I got some stuff searching Hauke (Nellie maiden) and Kasky. Communism/CPUSA seems to link the families.

[WayneS]

You are the one making a claim. The burden of proof is on you.

I never said that young Mr. Cruz did not come here from Russia. I simply asked you if you had any evidence that he did.

I have performed several searches today on the topic, and so far all I have found is news reports that he was "adopted at birth by a loving older couple". I do know that if Nikolas Cruz was in fact "adopted at birth" he most likely did not come here from Russia. When the adoption of Russian babies by U.S. citizens was still legal, two separate visits to the country by the prospective parents were required.

Furthermore, in order to be eligible for foreign adoption, a Russian baby had to have been in a children's home for several months and had no visits from any family member during that time. It would have been nearly impossible for an American couple to adopt a Russian baby "at birth".

[WayneS]

Aren't you special?

[WayneS]

If this young man was adopted at birth, then the adoption occurred circa 1999.

There was no “Russian birth industry” in Florida in 1999.

[txhurl]

would have been nearly impossible for an American couple to adopt a Russian baby “at birth”.

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Nothing’s impossible if you are a regular at DWS’s cocktail parties.

[WayneS]

...and, I am still not saying he did not come here from Russia. I am stating that based on my own experience with the actual foreign adoption process in Russia from around the same time, I think it is unlikely. I am also asking you, once again, if you have any evidence that Nikolas Cruz came here form Russia.

[philman_36]

I got some stuff searching Hauke (Nellie maiden) and Kasky.
Hauke is Ohr's maiden name.
Can you link?

[philman_36]

It would have been nearly impossible for an American couple to adopt a Russian baby "at birth".

But not completely impossible, eh?

Aren't you special?

No, I'm not.
Are you special?

[txhurl]

Kathleen Hauke Obituary - Washington, DC | The Washington Post
www.legacy.com/obituaries/washingtonpost/obituary.aspx?n=kathleen...hauke...
Aug 8, 2004 - Married on September 20, 1958, Dr. Hauke is survived by her husband, Dr. Richard Louis Hauke; daughters, Katherine Emma Jane DuGarm of St. Paul, MN and Nellie Hauke Ohr of McLean, VA; sons, Andrew Martin de Porres Hauke and Henry John LaFarge Hauke, both of North Kingstown, RI; ...

Meet Nellie H. Ohr | Thunder on the Right
https://thunderontheright.wordpress.com/2017/12/21/meet-nellie-h-ohr/
Dec 21, 2017 - Kathleen “inscribed multilingual quotations on the walls of her home,” and her daughter Nellie Hauke also showed linguistic flair. She earned a degree in history and Russian literature at Harvard and Radcliff, followed by an MA and PhD in history from Stanford. She taught history at Vassar College then ...
Nellie Hauke Ohr’s scientific contributions in New York and ...

https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/2021990501_Nellie_Hauke_Ohr
Nellie Hauke Ohr’s scientific contributions including: Peasant Metropolis: Social Identities in Moscow, 1929-1941. By David L. Hoffmann (Ithaca, New York: Cornell University Press, 1994. xii plus 282pp. $32.50)

[utdutt]

Since all Liberals are demanding a so called “assault weapons” ban, and most of Hollywood is Liberal, how bout they take the lead on this, and as of today, stop making any movie, tv show, etc... with “assault weapons” in them. I’d love for someone with influence to press Hollywood on this issue, put them on the spot, make them defend glamorizing violence with these weapons on screen.

[philman_36]

Dr. Kathleen Armstrong Hauke
Married on September 20, 1958, Dr. Hauke is survived by her husband, Dr. Richard Louis Hauke; daughters, Katherine Emma Jane DuGarm of St. Paul, MN and Nellie Hauke Ohr of McLean, VA; sons, Andrew Martin de Porres Hauke and Henry John LaFarge Hauke, both of North Kingstown, RI; grandchildren, H. John, Jaquelyn, Jamison, Julienne and Jessica Hauke, Andrew and Olivia Hauke, and Michael and Richard Ohr; and her sister, Nellie Ann Bush of Manistee, MI.

[philman_36]

There was no “Russian birth industry” in Florida in 1999.

Do you have evidence that there was no “Russian birth industry” in Florida in 1999?

You're making the claim so...goose and gander.

[philman_36]

Still not seeing a Hauke/Kasky connection.
What am I missing?

[txhurl]

Got some real interesting DuGarm Hess results, too.