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Trump open to tougher gun background checks after Florida rampage
The New York Post ^ | 02/19/18 | Mark Moore

Posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:18 AM PST by Simon Green

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To: butlerweave

Nope, the 39 times simply exist in the database....no charges, no convictions. Some indications suggest that the social office was called by the cops to come out (on some occasions)....to talk the kid into cooperating and calming down. Kid was a massive gamer and uncontrollable behavior.

Most folks, after ten cop visits....would have told the cop to take the kid to the social office, and leave him there. This woman just kept putting up with his behavior.

What bothers me is that in the whole state of Florida....there are probably a hundred kids like this and just ticking time-bombs. All of them need to be picked up and dumped on Pacific island for three years to chill out.


61 posted on 02/19/2018 7:32:32 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: onedoug

I dunno, maybe a checkbox for psychotropic meds. Worth discussing that, methinks. Also reports from doctors who prescribe, and an admonition from the doctor to the patient, “if I prescribe this med, one of the side effects is possible suicidal or homicidal thoughts, so I am obliged to report this prescription to NICS. If you take this prescription, you agree to relinquish your right to keep and bear arms.”


62 posted on 02/19/2018 7:32:36 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Simon Green

My best idea is to imprison those who post serious threats on our public media.


63 posted on 02/19/2018 7:33:07 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: goldstategop
Worth repeating:

Fake News CNN is talking about tougher gun laws.

No one is talking about locking mentally unstable people up.

Shout it from the rooftops!

64 posted on 02/19/2018 7:33:46 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: onedoug
What's "not good" about thorough background checks? I've read that this young man had been treated for mental illness, and that he had been expelled from school for various violent tendencies. The red flags were clearly there. The schools should be required to report this information to law enforcement. Any measures which don't infringe on Unalienable Rights should be on the table for consideration.

And no gun-seller should be required to sell a gun to anyone they have reservations about.

I understand that it's a slippery slope, but there are two options: measures which infringe on Unalienable Rights, and measures which don't infringe on them. As gun owner's, we're duty bound to seek out the latter, or else the propagandists will ensure the former.

Having said that, it's also incumbent on gun rights advocates to staunchly and articulately defend those rights, and to repudiate the emotional, "feel good" measures which the Leftists propose—measures which both infringe on Unalienable Rights and are also ineffective.

65 posted on 02/19/2018 7:34:28 AM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: null and void

Exactly. There must be penalties for that. Harsh ones.


66 posted on 02/19/2018 7:35:46 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; JudyinCanada

Judy’s legit.


67 posted on 02/19/2018 7:35:58 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: onedoug

We have open carry here.

Crime rate is pretty low.

Go figure...


68 posted on 02/19/2018 7:36:59 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: Simon Green

Turned in to the FBI at least twice, 39 police visits, expelled from school due to threats. Let’s see ... we need more gun control laws and a monument to the stupidity of of the Left, and raise taxes to pay for the monument, of course.


69 posted on 02/19/2018 7:37:17 AM PST by Truth29
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To: JudyinCanada
Ok, at the risk of being eviscerated because of lack of knowledge, what is wrong with tougher background checks?

The problem is at the "other end" - reporting in by the various courts and mental health care providers is a cumbersome process. If the disqualifying info isn't there in the system to find, it doesn't matter how "tough" the background check is.

70 posted on 02/19/2018 7:39:25 AM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA
Assault rifles are already heavily restricted. I don't see why banning, limiting, or having more government control over anything will "fix" anything.

And while I'm not really into video games, I don't agree with my fellow people of the gun who glibly offer them up to be banned. Exact same mindset as people who are not into guns casually wanting them banned.

71 posted on 02/19/2018 7:39:28 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: FrankR
How about 25 being the minimum age to purchase, and/or own, a gun.

Given that most yute's criminal records, no matter how violent, are expunged at 18, there is some merit to this.

Anyone who can't keep their nose clean for a few years after turning 18 might be problematic.

72 posted on 02/19/2018 7:40:23 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: sargon

#40


73 posted on 02/19/2018 7:40:38 AM PST by onedoug
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74 posted on 02/19/2018 7:40:42 AM PST by PROCON (Happy Trump Year!)
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To: Simon Green

Look for the “mental health” angle to be once again shoveled under the rug.


75 posted on 02/19/2018 7:41:41 AM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: goldstategop

Agreed.

Not criticizing you, but amening you.


76 posted on 02/19/2018 7:41:53 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: Simon Green

ANY gun ban, ANY infringement of the right to keep and bear arms signed by Trump, and I will STAY HOME from the 2020 elections. Absolutely serious. If Trump is willing to throw his NRA supporters to the Demonrat wolves, then he will get the same treatment.


77 posted on 02/19/2018 7:41:59 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (The GOP-Democrat-Media Uniparty must be destroyed.)
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To: sargon

The tragedy is the killer is also a victim.

If someone had locked up in the first place, 17 kids would be alive today.

But liberals don’t like to hold mentally ill people where they can be treated without endangering others or themselves.

Some people are simply not capable of functioning in society. Its not humane or compassionate to leave such ticking human time bombs to their own devices.

As long as we refuse to face up to it, more mass murders are inevitable in the future. Guns are not the problem. Mentally ill people are the problem.


78 posted on 02/19/2018 7:42:39 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: FrankR

25? Good lord. We have people joining the military at 17 and 18. That is absolutely not the answer.


79 posted on 02/19/2018 7:43:37 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; JudyinCanada
"The school district never reported to the police that the shooter brought ammunition onto school grounds, which is a felony."

Really? Silly me, assuming that they had.

80 posted on 02/19/2018 7:45:39 AM PST by OKSooner (Joan Rivers, RIP)
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