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Trump open to tougher gun background checks after Florida rampage
The New York Post ^ | 02/19/18 | Mark Moore

Posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:18 AM PST by Simon Green

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To: goldstategop
Nikolas Cruz had no prior criminal record and he cleared background checks.

See Laz's flow chart above...

41 posted on 02/19/2018 7:16:54 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: Simon Green

Will the background check quickly scan all social media posts and youtube videos and use AI to make a determination ?


42 posted on 02/19/2018 7:17:06 AM PST by libh8er
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To: jimjohn

The Dems will oppose it.


43 posted on 02/19/2018 7:18:14 AM PST by cowboyusa
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To: AppyPappy

We’ve got to protect our phoney-baloney jobs, gentleman! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately, immediately! Harrumph, harrumph!


44 posted on 02/19/2018 7:18:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Simon Green

Start a review of every county’s school system security and protocol for dangerous situations. I have a feeling that Broward County isn’t the only one lacking, that could easily afford to upgrade to something that doesn’t invite a tragedy that those with bated breath are always waiting for.


45 posted on 02/19/2018 7:18:41 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Agree. We should stop glamorizing guns and gun battles in video games, movies and TV. Stop that and see if anyone claims first amendment rights. Then start talking about gun control. I do think greater background checks and maybe limitations on assault rifles would not be a bad idea.


46 posted on 02/19/2018 7:19:13 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Simon Green

If you take prescription drugs behavioral issues or for depression then you should not be able to purchase firearm. Also, hold drug companies accountable.


47 posted on 02/19/2018 7:20:03 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: Simon Green

How about 25 being the minimum age to purchase, and/or own, a gun. Along with that, a gun safety certification and a required number of hours in training.

Exceptions, of course, would be made for the military, but then, the military does the extensive training and safety requirements.

Twenty-five supposed to be the magic age when young adults finally gain the full ability to foresee the results of their actions, and the consequences of stupid decisions.

That’s five extra years of maturity, societal rules, and knowledge.

Let’s stop pushing societal control to younger and younger people. Everything from firearms to sex is being pushed younger and younger, when it should be going the other way.

And while we’re at it...twenty-five should be the minimum voting age too...same reasons.


48 posted on 02/19/2018 7:20:50 AM PST by FrankR (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: goldstategop

He was taking head meds.


49 posted on 02/19/2018 7:21:02 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Same thing with immigration.
We don’t need new laws when they refuse to use the ones we have.


50 posted on 02/19/2018 7:21:24 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: null and void

My point is still valid - same with the TX mass murderer.

Apparently, the lapses in the background check system were not fixed.

We don’t need a new law; we need to better enforce the laws we already have on the books.


51 posted on 02/19/2018 7:22:17 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: JudyinCanada

A background check is useless if the subject’s medical records are confidential under Federal law.


52 posted on 02/19/2018 7:23:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: goldstategop
Nikolas Cruz had no prior criminal record and he cleared background checks.

See Laz's flow chart above.

How could a government that monitors every form of electronic communication accidentally miss all those red flags?

Could it be deliberate, hmmmm?

53 posted on 02/19/2018 7:24:25 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: Simon Green
If the shooter (I will not mention his name) had shouted "Allahu akbar" while killing the students, Hillary! supporters would have been saying "Don't judge a whole community because of one crazed individual".

Since the shooter did not shout "Allahu akbar", Hillary! supporters are saying "Blame the whole community for the actions of one crazed individual".

54 posted on 02/19/2018 7:24:59 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: Simon Green

What’s with tougher background checks....they don’t do anything with the ones they have.


55 posted on 02/19/2018 7:25:35 AM PST by ontap
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

maybe limitations on assault rifles would not be a bad idea.
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Assault rifles were greatly limited in 1986.
Fully automatic weapons are tightly regulated and very expensive. No one is using them in crimes.


56 posted on 02/19/2018 7:26:31 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: JudyinCanada

More gun control will do nothing to solve this problem.

Stop Gun Free Zones; allow CCW permit holders to carry to include teachers who are willing.

A good guy with a gun is the only true fix.

Then follow laws on those being treated for mental heath to be listed by law enforcement in NICS instant check.


57 posted on 02/19/2018 7:27:21 AM PST by Freedom_2_ADM
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To: Simon Green

Things that need to change to facilitate said background checks

1) Document all bad behavior. Start laying mischief charges. For the little angels from ages 8 to 18. Have some sort of record to review
2) Bury the PC. Support teachers and police and remove the fear and backlash of confronting the hispanics and Trayvons.
3) Repeal all the liberal nonsense of putting medicated mental cases in our neighbourhoods. Lock up the criminally insane and work to improve the drugs to control the violent impulses.


58 posted on 02/19/2018 7:27:48 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: cyclotic
The NICS system is good but if the government isn’t keeping their records up to date, they must do better.

The school district DELIBERATELY withheld any information from the local LEOs.

The LEOs made the DELIBERATE decision to do NOTHING on any of the 39 house calls they made.

The FBI NEGLIGENTLY failed to give local law enforcement a heads up. They couldn't find anything on someone posting that they were going to shoot up a school on an open forum under his own name? Is this abject incompetence, neglect or deliberate?

59 posted on 02/19/2018 7:31:08 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: JudyinCanada
what is wrong with tougher background checks?

Define "tougher".

You're already checked for felonies, drug use, dishonorable discharge, etc, etc.

Have you ever filled out a form 4473?

60 posted on 02/19/2018 7:32:16 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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