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To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment(Hurl alert)
The New York Times ^ | 16th February 2018 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 02/16/2018 7:13:46 PM PST by Ennis85

Had Wednesday’s massacre of 17 people at a Florida high school been different in one respect — that is, had alleged perpetrator Nikolas Cruz shouted “Allahu akbar” during the course of his rampage — conservatives would be demanding another round of get-tough measures.

Tougher immigration laws. Tougher domestic surveillance. A rollback of Miranda rights for the accused. Possibly even a Muslim registry. Constitutional protections and American ideals, goes the argument, must sometimes yield to urgent public safety concerns.

But Cruz, like Las Vegas’s Stephen Paddock or Newtown’s Adam Lanza and so many other mass murderers before them, is just another killer without a cause. Collectively, their carnages account for some 1,800 deaths and close to 7,000 injuries in the United States since the beginning of 2013, according to The Guardian — though that’s only a small fraction of overall gun-related deaths. And conservatives have next to nothing of use to say about it.

Well, almost nothing. Some conservatives talk about the importance of mental-health interventions with the potentially violent. Florida Gov. Rick Scott wants to keep firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill. The Obama administration tried to do that after the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre by requiring the Social Security Administration to submit the names of severely unwell persons to the F.B.I.

Congressional Republicans and President Trump reversed the rule a year ago. Representative Salud Carbajal, a California Democrat, introduced a “red flag” bill last May that would make it easier for family members to keep firearms out of the hands of potentially dangerous relatives. The bill has 50 Democratic co-sponsors but not one Republican. Maybe the Parkland massacre will shame the majority into embracing the legislation.

But such laws can achieve only so much. Keeping track of dangerously unstable people who shouldn’t own guns but do

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; shootings
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To: bankwalker

do a search for MK-ULTRA

Thanks.
I just did a google search and read a couple of the hits on it.
Damn...maybe my 6th sense wasn’t too far off to begin with, and my tin-foil hat not so thin.
There are just too many of these shootings by almost the same type of kids to be coincidence. Perhaps, these “Clowns” continued on with their program polishing it to perfection, and using it on these kids to further the left’s agenda???
The would provide more sane explanation than anything else out there.
Wow, sure wish that could be proven true beyond a doubt and identify those by name that are actually doing it....talk about a scandal and the following uprising.


41 posted on 02/16/2018 7:59:56 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Ennis85

Make it happen, bitch.


42 posted on 02/16/2018 8:03:46 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Ennis85

I would be very happy to see the left try and pass a repeal-the-2A amendment. It would be a breath of fresh air from the left.

But, they never will, preferring instead to “repeal” it by hook or crook thru incessant legislative infringements, executive orders, wild state AG’s, bench legislators, thru the media, hollywierd, and on and on.... all the forces the left has in its control, all except thru the only legal mechanism - proposing a constitutional amendment and getting it ratified. The left are cowards.


43 posted on 02/16/2018 8:06:52 PM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: Ennis85

If your 2nd Amendment Rights are up for grabs, we’ll just yank the NYT’s 1st Amendment Rights as well. The repeal of the 2nd Amendment would not end well for “progressives”.


44 posted on 02/16/2018 8:09:15 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Ennis85

The Liberals think only the Police and the Military should be Armed.

It worked in Germany in the 30’s and 40’s and it works in China and North Korea today.


45 posted on 02/16/2018 8:12:30 PM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Ennis85

Send General Gage to confiscate all arms, powder and lead.

We can meet anytime, in Concord, to work out the terms


46 posted on 02/16/2018 8:21:22 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.cwom/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M5)
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To: Ennis85

Another false narrative.

No, Bret Stephens - in this case laws and policies were in place to prevent this and would have if only the bureaucracy had functioned the way it should have. In this case it isn’t even 20/20 hindsight - the puzzle was already complete before the fact.

But liberals never let a tragedy go to waste to push scenarios and an agenda that had nothing to do with the incident. It’s sick.


47 posted on 02/16/2018 8:25:27 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Sicon

After I left Connecticut I watched a whole bunch of people who certainly seemed like constitution respecting, patriotic and hardened men stand in line to kneel before the state.

From that group of literally thousands of them I only saw one man truly stand up to tyranny and ultimately say “NO”. John Cinque.

You would like to think that these men exist and would draw a line in the sand but you are wrong. For every 1000 of these people there will be 1 man who will not bend at the waist to serve their masters.

I’ve seen it.


48 posted on 02/16/2018 8:26:56 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Ennis85

49 posted on 02/16/2018 8:31:27 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.cwom/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M5)
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To: Mount Athos

I think you might be onto something.


50 posted on 02/16/2018 8:36:38 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Ennis85

Start the real war on drugs. Liberal drug pushers are murdering tens of thousands of young people every year!


51 posted on 02/16/2018 8:40:03 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: Ennis85

Walk down any Martin Luther King Blvd after dark and ask yourself who or what do you fear most?

A handful of mentally disturbed people?
A handful of 16-24 y/o black youths?


52 posted on 02/16/2018 8:43:33 PM PST by umgud
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To: Ennis85

Bite me Bret. This guy is an industrial grade ahole.


53 posted on 02/16/2018 8:44:05 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Gay State Conservative

In other words, they might as well wish it would rain Skittles every Saturday.

It’s not gonna happen.


54 posted on 02/16/2018 8:49:02 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Ennis85

bring it on - im sick and tired of this stuff, can we please done with these people.


55 posted on 02/16/2018 8:55:43 PM PST by ezo4
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To: Ennis85

Ban public schools instead. All kids to be home schooled. Problem of school shootings goes away.


56 posted on 02/16/2018 9:00:37 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: jospehm20

The most annoying thing about this clown is that he is considered a “conservative” by the Slimes.


57 posted on 02/16/2018 9:25:58 PM PST by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: Ennis85

NYT: Yes, the very wise Founding Fathers put into the Constitution a way to change the Constitution.
These mass murders are awful, but the alternative is worse, much worse.


58 posted on 02/16/2018 9:27:02 PM PST by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: Ennis85

Just so you know the background of the writer:

Stephens was born in New York City, the son of Xenia and Charles J. Stephens, a former vice president of General Products, a chemical company in Mexico. His parents were both secular Jews. His paternal grandfather had changed the family surname from Ehrlich to Stephens (after poet James Stephens). He was raised in Mexico City, where his father was born and worked. In his adolescence, he attended boarding school at Middlesex School in Massachusetts. Stephens received an undergraduate degree in political philosophy from the University of Chicago before earning a master’s degree in comparative politics at the London School of Economics.


59 posted on 02/16/2018 10:19:24 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Ennis85
'There are two legal ways to kill prisoners' - life in North Korea's Yodok prison camp

An escapee tells of life and death in North Korea's labor camps


But don't worry, it can't happen here.



60 posted on 02/16/2018 11:23:40 PM PST by greedo
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