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What really happened in Charlottesville? (vanity)

Posted on 02/16/2018 3:17:01 PM PST by Faith Presses On

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To: Faith Presses On

Your post is very important!

I am still trying to make sense of this, too. One of the alt right leaders was an Obama supporter! Who paid for the tiki lanterns, and the brand new Nazi flags? It is not like this was a Nazi group that liked to parade with these flags at their paramilitary training sites, but these flags were brand new and still had the original folding creases, which were prominently visible.

And, if some of the protesters got off the same bus and assumed different sides of the protest, it is a huge story, though the mainstream media probably would not be interested in covering this. Did this really happen? Wonder if the Russians were funding both sides here? Where did the money come from? Who are the agitators, and where are they now?

Because there is no more narrative supporting story here, you will never here any more from the mainstream media on this. Is there one investigative reporter still alive?


21 posted on 02/16/2018 7:18:51 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Faith Presses On

I do not care to watch an hour plus of some boring guy yakking. Does anyone have, like, the ACTUAL VIDEO they are talking about? By this I mean the video of the car or whatever WITHOUT 1 HOUR of guys milking it.


22 posted on 02/16/2018 7:18:57 PM PST by sportutegrl
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I have tried to watch the video, but there are too many "ah ha's" that just don't seem to make sense.

This whole event is curious enough without trying to find conspiracies that may, or may not exist, and are next to impossible to prove.

It is almost like the conspiracy theorists, which always show up, are trying to discredit a rational investigation!

23 posted on 02/16/2018 7:35:11 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Faith Presses On
SOURCE: https://www.patreon.com/sonofnewo

The salient points:

1. The Maroon Van was parked at the intersection of 4th and Water for 5 Minutes prior to the car attack.
2. C-Ville Police Misled the Public re: the Maroon Van.
3. Ford Fischer & Co. waited by Green Awning for 3 Minutes for no apparent reason.
4. The Dodge Challenger Arrived at the Scene of the Crime 1 min 15 secs early, and then apparently moved around in a strange way.
5. Eyewitnesses like Brennan Gilmore misled/lied to public in the days after the Car Attack.
6. Local Prosecutors and the City of Charlottesville are not allowing the public to see video evidence that they submitted to the court. This is unlawful.
7. According to 'Mr. X', the FBI seized the Pie Chest surveillance video without telling local authorities that the video existed.
8. Black SUV on 4th Street – a federal fleet vehicle?
9. Reporter Jeremiah Knupp, who filmed the Dodge Challenger in the moments prior to impact, turned down my offer of money and refuses to release his footage of Dodge Challenger.
10. SkyClad Aerial, which filmed the scene prior to the car attack from a drone in the sky, turned down my offer of money and refuses to show their footage from before and after the car attack.
Bonus: SkyClad Aerial released a misleading, deceptive edit of their footage. Why?
What could explain all these curious facts? [Sonofnewo] I'm working on it.

Sure looks like a lot of odd events that need further public examination.

24 posted on 02/17/2018 7:34:23 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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See #24
Link to SonOfNewo


25 posted on 02/17/2018 7:35:43 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: combat_boots

I’ll remember to check into that sometime. Thanks.


26 posted on 02/18/2018 7:31:36 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: blueplum

Thanks. That summary helped.


27 posted on 02/18/2018 7:32:21 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: John S Mosby

Thank you for the information. I’d heard something like that about the protest’s organizer. I’ll look into it.


28 posted on 02/18/2018 7:33:18 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I didn’t know that about the flags. There is something really suspect about the whole event. Have there been any new conservative marches since then? Meanwhile the left stages a new march all the time.


29 posted on 02/18/2018 7:35:27 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: ptsal

Thank you. I’ll look into your list as I look at the Charlottesville evidence. These answers have give me a lot as a start.


30 posted on 02/18/2018 7:38:31 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On
I didn’t know that about the flags. There is something really suspect about the whole event. Have there been any new conservative marches since then? Meanwhile the left stages a new march all the time.

I did not know there was much of a white supremacy movement. It just seems like that the whole event was staged. Especially since one of the white supremacy leaders was an Obama supporter a few months earlier.

31 posted on 02/18/2018 8:00:53 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie; Faith Presses On; All
Follow Up:

I am still trying to make sense of this, too. One of the alt right leaders was an Obama supporter! Who paid for the tiki lanterns, and the brand new Nazi flags? It is not like this was a Nazi group that liked to parade with these flags at their paramilitary training sites, but these flags were brand new and still had the original folding creases, which were prominently visible.

These "protestors" were transported to Charlottesville and many came by bus. Well, who paid the bus company? There should be a record at the bus company.

32 posted on 02/19/2018 6:34:07 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It was not just White Supremacy.

It was a White Nationalist Group(Nazi) along with White Supremacists and an unconnected Southern Monument Defense group. The Nazis/KKK had asked for a permit. C’ville turned them down but the ACLU/DNC wanted the Rally to occur so they could tie it to the narrative that Trump was the racist’s candidate. C’ville finally got the message and embraced the rally. They tried to make sure the Nazis were unarmed but all the local rally groups(came by car) came locked and loaded. The opposition was not armed and was reduced to throwing things and yelling.
You aren’t hearing anything from the car guy who killed the girl because the narrative isn’t about him.
I got this from some of the Monument group.


33 posted on 02/19/2018 6:43:38 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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Do you know the name of the monument group?

I think some of the event organizers may have been trolls. Would love to see proof, if in fact this was the case!!!


34 posted on 02/19/2018 7:22:37 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

One of them is “The Virginia Flaggers”


35 posted on 02/19/2018 7:27:58 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

No, those groups really do exist. And you can guarantee that some are undercover cops. The guy who led the KKK to the shootout in Greensboro in 1979 was an FBI informant.

FR used to get invasions from StormFront all the time in the early days.


36 posted on 02/19/2018 7:30:51 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

Thank you.


37 posted on 02/19/2018 12:49:58 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: AppyPappy
No, those groups really do exist. And you can guarantee that some are undercover cops. The guy who led the KKK to the shootout in Greensboro in 1979 was an FBI informant.


You can bet your bottom dollar that if there is a police informant, that he is doing more than just informing. He is more likely an agent provocateur. It is not clear whether the event would have occurred had the "police informant" been there to encourage the lawbreaker to go forward with the illegal plans.

I recall when I was in my 20s and the Vietnam War was going on, there were two guys who threw a brick through a window of the draft board in Columbia, SC. One was a hopeless, deluded would be communist, and the other was a police informant. I am not saying I in any way like, nor approve of the actions of the hopeless, deluded would be communist, but had there been no agent provocateur, there would have been no brick through the window of the draft board.

A good many US terrorists today are apprehended by the actions of co conspiring agent provocateurs.

It stinks, but that is what police departments do.

38 posted on 02/19/2018 1:01:25 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
No, those groups really do exist. And you can guarantee that some are undercover cops. The guy who led the KKK to the shootout in Greensboro in 1979 was an FBI informant.


You can bet your bottom dollar that if there is a police informant, that he is doing more than just informing. He is more likely an agent provocateur. It is not clear whether the event would have occurred had the "police informant" NOT been there to encourage the lawbreaker to go forward with the illegal plans.

I recall when I was in my 20s and the Vietnam War was going on, there were two guys who threw a brick through a window of the draft board in Columbia, SC. One was a hopeless, deluded would be communist, and the other was a police informant. I am not saying I in any way like, nor approve of the actions of the hopeless, deluded would be communist, but had there been no agent provocateur, there would have been no brick through the window of the draft board.

A good many US terrorists today are apprehended by the actions of co conspiring agent provocateurs.

It stinks, but that is what police departments do.

39 posted on 02/19/2018 1:04:27 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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