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American Jews and Inconsistency on Immigration
American Thinker ^ | 2/15/2018

Posted on 02/15/2018 8:02:23 AM PST by Altura Ct.

This is an observation more than a critique, but it cannot help but be addressed. The internet is making certain inconsistencies about Jewish-American politicians obvious. It is something I have known about for decades but have kept quiet about, until I examined it more closely and became sure I was not overlooking a matter.

Recently, Senator Chuck Schumer battled with President Trump to tender protections to illegal aliens brought to the USA as children. Now, I am not saying who is right or wrong in this debate. In fact, I am closer to Senator Schumer's opinion, though I was not in favor of the government shutdown to force the issue.

Senator Schumer is a strong supporter of Israel. In fact, "Schumer says he advised Trump to declare Jerusalem Israel's 'undivided' capital[.]"

What is striking here is an obvious inconsistency. Israel is adamant about preserving its Jewish identity in a way that America and many European nations are not. Israel radically favors Jewish immigrants. Presently, Israel is trying to rid itself of African refugees and has threatened those who refuse to leave with imprisonment.

Now, one has to wonder why a strong supporter of Israel, such as Senator Schumer, is not as critical of Israel's planned deportations as he is of Trump's – or conversely, if he is accepting of Israel's deportations, why is he critical of President Trump? Apparently, Senator Schumer sees no problem with Israel maintaining its ethnic Jewish identity, yet somehow he feels obliged to act otherwise concerning America's ethnic core.

And yes, America still has an ethnic core. Bluntly speaking, that core is white European, weighted toward Northern European. That core is diminishing, to be sure, but most of the readers at American Thinker can remember a time when that American ethnic core was uncontested.

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After 1924, quotas for immigration to the United States favored ethnic groups from seven countries in descending order: Germany, Britain, Ireland, Sweden, Poland, Norway, and France. With the exception of France, all of these countries were clearly Northern European, and Northern France might as well be. My chief opinion of that historical quota is that it set the limit for Italians far too low. The Italians deserved a higher number. By way of disclosure, I am neither Italian in ancestry nor related to Italian-Americans, but a lot of my friends are.

The quotas were set up to maintain the approximate ethnic make-up of the United States, which, unlike Western Europe at that time, was not mono-ethnic, but, though poly-ethnic, comprised similar or related ethnic groups. A South German (Munich) Catholic immigrant might be indistinguishable from an American WASP in all but religion. A Swedish Protestant would be even blonder than the average American. A glib Irishman might speak English better than a native-born cowboy.

1 posted on 02/15/2018 8:02:23 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

almost all those in congress who are outraged by a “racist” wall on the southern border, are totally in favor of Israel’s wall around the west bank, and are in favor of strong, secure Israeli borders, voting billions in foreign aid to Israel every year.

I remember some years ago, the Jewish editor of a newspaper in Mississippi was leading the charge in the effort to change the Mississippi state flag, removing the “offensive” Confederate symbol. I sent an email to him asking him if he was going to wage a campaign to change the Israeli flag, removing the “offensive” star of David. His response was to call me a racist and anti-Semite.


2 posted on 02/15/2018 8:19:41 AM PST by euram
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To: euram

Its a political core which the whites , Christian whites of Great Britain, developed rooted in common law, the Magna Carta.

It’s not an ethnic issue, but of politics , progress and freedom rooted on Common Law of Great Britain


3 posted on 02/15/2018 8:34:17 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m Jewish and have followed (and been disgusted by) Schumer since he was merely an obnoxious NY Congressman.

Trying to be just a bit fair to the lying scumbag, maybe he feels like Israel cannot withstand even a fair number of Phakestinian immigrants, let alone terrorists infiltrating into it, whereas the US can.

However, I know him well enough to know one thing: Schumer is for Schumer. That which he thinks is good for him, he favors. That which he thinks is bad for him, he opposes. It really isn’t more complex than that.

So, here’s the truth about his ***apparently*** inconsistent policy stands on Israeli and American immigration policy:

1) He favors an Israeli wall and other tough measures because most of those Jews, and Judeophiles, who either vote for him or contribute to his campaign (or both) feel that way, and to oppose it would hurt him.

2) He opposes a wall and any other measure to limit immigration - legal or illegal - into this country because immigrants who vote (whether legally or not) and their children (who, being anchor babies WILL be able to vote legally) tend to vote overwhelmingly Democrat. This is good for Schumer, so that is his stance. It is also completely consistent with the Democrat position since at least 1965 - they wish to considerably reduce the power of the white, Northern European-descended population, which hasn’t voted majority Dem since the 1940s.

FYI, as mentioned above, I’m Jewish. 3 of 4 of my grandparents, and 6 of 8 of my great grandparents, came from Russia or Poland in the early 20th Century. The Russian ones were themselves, and had family who were, horribly victimized by Russian Leftists (A.K.A. Communists); the Polish ones had family that suffered immensely at the hands of German Leftists (A.K.A. Nazis). As a result, and in conjunction with studying history and economics, and applying some logic to those studies, I am unalterably and fervently opposed to the Left in all of its many shapes and guises. For that reason alone, I despise Schumer and those of his ideological ilk; because his extended family undoubtedly shares some of the same type of suffering as mine, I consider him to be a traitor to the Jewish people, as well.

Did I mention that he’s not my favorite person on the planet?


4 posted on 02/15/2018 8:51:14 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Altura Ct.
Schumer is just a political whore and will say what ever is convenient.
The real problem is that no one in the political establishment wants to enforce existing immigration laws.
5 posted on 02/15/2018 8:52:17 AM PST by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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To: himno hero

It’s not an ethnic issue, but of politics , progress and freedom rooted on Common Law of Great Britain

Bingo!


6 posted on 02/15/2018 8:53:15 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: Altura Ct.; euram
Now, one has to wonder why a strong supporter of Israel, such as Senator Schumer, is not as critical of Israel's planned deportations as he is of Trump's – or conversely, if he is accepting of Israel's deportations, why is he critical of President Trump? Apparently, Senator Schumer sees no problem with Israel maintaining its ethnic Jewish identity, yet somehow he feels obliged to act otherwise concerning America's ethnic core

Chuck Schumer's attitude isn't unique to US Jews who identify as Democrats, you see the same attitude among many US Jews who identify as conservative Republicans. They seem to believe that Israel is the sole nation that is entitled to exist as an ethno-state, and that any and all other ethno-nationalisms and "nativist" beliefs are inherently evil. In fact, when discussing immigration to the US and Europe, people like Max Boot and Bill Kristol sound exactly like Chuck Schumer - rhetoric and all.

Israel has every right to exist as an ethno-state and to exclude whoever it wants from citizenship and residency. The same thing should apply to every other country in the world.

7 posted on 02/15/2018 9:25:27 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Altura Ct.

A lot of male African foreignerss in Israel must see a doctor and *prove* every so often that they are using subcutaneous Norplant birth-control.

And it’s for demographic reasons.

Why not here also?


8 posted on 02/15/2018 10:39:15 AM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Female, not male. Sorry!


9 posted on 02/15/2018 10:43:13 AM PST by gaijin
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A lot of male African foreignerss in Israel must see a doctor and *prove* every so often that they are using subcutaneous Norplant birth-control. And it’s for demographic reasons. Why not here also?

If we had any sense, we would have required this of the DACA recipients as a pre-condition for non-deportation. Illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America are notorious for having very large numbers of children, starting at a very young age.

10 posted on 02/15/2018 11:03:38 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: euram
almost all those in congress who are outraged by a “racist” wall on the southern border, are totally in favor of Israel’s wall around the west bank, and are in favor of strong, secure Israeli borders, voting billions in foreign aid to Israel every year.

Translation: Israel runs the Left! Support the PLO! (And implicitly, "White Man, get rid of the Bible!")

11 posted on 02/15/2018 11:07:21 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: ek_hornbeck
Chuck Schumer's attitude isn't unique to US Jews who identify as Democrats, you see the same attitude among many US Jews who identify as conservative Republicans. They seem to believe that Israel is the sole nation that is entitled to exist as an ethno-state, and that any and all other ethno-nationalisms and "nativist" beliefs are inherently evil. In fact, when discussing immigration to the US and Europe, people like Max Boot and Bill Kristol sound exactly like Chuck Schumer - rhetoric and all.

Translation: Let every ethnic group have its own (equally valid) religion, "gxd," "truth," and "holy land!" Objective Universal Religious Truth is nothing but race-mixing Communism!!!"

Israel has every right to exist as an ethno-state and to exclude whoever it wants from citizenship and residency. The same thing should apply to every other country in the world.

Assuming, of course, that HaShem doesn't exist, Torah is just another book of mythology, and the Jews were never Divinely chosen or elected.

Why do atheists hang out on conservative forums . . . especially atheists who refuse to even engage with religion?

I note that one thing that anti-Jewish right wingers and liberal Jews share in common is a total absence of any and all Biblical sentimentalism. I've argued with both, and every time I mention G-d or the Bible all I get is crickets. Yet anti-Jewish right wingers think they belong on American conservative forums when they're actually nothing but a bunch of white Hubert Henry Harrisons. What do people like you have in common with any Fundamentalist Protestant, other than the fact that you accept them (even though you think they're stupid) because their religion is now a symbol of "white European civilization?" Black atheist Marxists support Black Fundamentalist Protestants for the same reason.

The notorious Dr. Revilo P. Oliver (yimach shemo vezikhro!) said that, in an infinite meaningless universe of matter in motion and material cause and effect, where we live on a meaningless dust mote whose absence would mean absolutely nothing, that one still has to have something to live for, and that should be one's race. I assume you feel the same way.

12 posted on 02/15/2018 11:23:53 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: ek_hornbeck; gaijin
A lot of male African foreignerss in Israel must see a doctor and *prove* every so often that they are using subcutaneous Norplant birth-control. And it’s for demographic reasons. Why not here also?

If we had any sense, we would have required this of the DACA recipients as a pre-condition for non-deportation. Illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America are notorious for having very large numbers of children, starting at a very young age.

Birth control and population control, huh? I thought You People considered the Catholic Church the very bedrock of white, western, European civilization, was against such stuff? Do you advocate abortion and euthanasia as well?

What would Pat Buchanan think of you?

13 posted on 02/15/2018 11:28:15 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; ek_hornbeck

You didn’t say “you people” —you said You People.

You know why..?

Well, yeah, sure, you wanted to put further distance between us and you. There’s that. But the REAL reason you did it was because by your OWN past admission you’re a non-Jew but in this thread —as in many others— you’re masquerading as a Hugely Offended Jew. The capitalization reinforces your perception of being an In-Group Member.

And what’s more, even if you WERE Jewish, here in this thread you’d be offended about NOTHING.

Yes, as you explained in a recklessly unguarded moment a long time ago in a different thread you’re a “Noachide”, i.e. a non-Jew who lives by an interpretation of Rabbinic Judaism.

Ya know what? I think that’s FINE. Unusual? Yes, but I think that’s great.

What I object to is...

1. Your assumption that I’m Catholic (I’m not, but I think their schools are great)

2. Your accusations of all this other totally unrelated stuff; abortion, euthanasia, etc.

3. Your implication that there’s some type of anti-Semitism here; there’s clearly NOT

I’ve seen you do this same vile thing about 100 times and you’re not even Jewish, though you NEVER let on about that last part.

Your militancy on this matter is your form of self-therapy, your way of circumventing the DNA requirement and via WORKS alone, somehow still end up making the grade for, “Member of The Tribe”.

You know MOST out-of-shape, pathetic fake Navy SEALS parading around in a fake uniform at some point or other finally QUIT their act after getting unmasked as a fraud, you know..?

Why the Energizer Bunny Act..?

Do you tell the truth to the people at Synagogue you repeatedly hang around, or do you deceive them, too..?

My guess is you don’t belong to a country club, you don’t have a family, you don’t belong to any interest groups and you might not even own a PET.

Best would be to stop being DISHONEST but at the very least stop acting like a ludicrous CARICATURE of a Jew.


14 posted on 02/15/2018 12:48:55 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Altura Ct.
Grievance based asinine stupidity and sloth meant to whip up hysteria against Jews, and which will only hurt the immigration policies this useful mental case for cultural marxists supports.

1. American Jews don't vote in America based on Israel.
2. American Jews, or at least non-Orthodox ones, want Israeli marriage policy changed.
3. Left Wing groups with a side of Lox are trying to see Israel flooded with immigration and invaders from Africa.
4. The 1965 Immigration Act was quite popular in America and was supported by White Ethnics of all religions as well as many WASPS. It passed the Senate 76 to 18. Among those 18 was Senator Goldwater.
The people coming to America are less friends to Israel and Jews than the White population of America. If American Jews controlled immigration policy and ran it based on Jewish interests, we would be reducing immigration. In a few years there will be more Arabs and Muslims than Jews in America and American synagogues are already being forced to fortify themselves. But leftists of Jewish descent oppose anyhting resembling Jewish interest on any issue.

6. Antisemitism tarnishes anything it touches. (It also sends Jews into the Arms of the Soros Defense League). It aloows the left to have evidence when calling us racist. Konrad is either a communist agent using black propoganda or is too mentally ill to understand how he aids the left. Antisemitism destroys the mind and soul. If you want to reduce immigration in America, look to Israeli policies as a model.

15 posted on 02/15/2018 6:07:23 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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MAx Boot isn’t a Republican anymore. Bill Kristol is barely a Republican these days. Do you talk to Jewish Republicans or only those promoted by the left?


16 posted on 02/15/2018 6:20:37 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: gaijin

The Norplant story was about Ethiopian Jewish women, who wanted to have birth control


17 posted on 02/15/2018 6:21:53 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Antisemitism tarnishes anything it touches. (It also sends Jews into the Arms of the Soros Defense League). It aloows the left to have evidence when calling us racist. Konrad is either a communist agent using black propoganda or is too mentally ill to understand how he aids the left. Antisemitism destroys the mind and soul. If you want to reduce immigration in America, look to Israeli policies as a model.

Unfortunately anti-Semitism has become very fashionable here of late. So has a "conservatism" based on nothing but European identitarianism (you can see this from some of the screen names). Yet they continue to register and to post here, and precious little is said about it.

Racialism, whether white or "of color" is a fake reason to live for people who don't acknowledge G-d.

18 posted on 02/15/2018 6:25:30 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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I have nothing against European nationalism. But antisemites aren’t rational natiolists


19 posted on 02/15/2018 6:28:16 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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I have nothing against European nationalism. But antisemites aren’t rational natiolists

Neither do I (or any other non-Jewish nationalism so long as it isn't exalted to a metaphysical category). But these people cropping up here these days are bad dudes. They reject G-d, the Bible, and make all of "conservatism" about the Holy European Chromosome. Most of them are atheists, like Oliver, Klassen, and Francis. What are they doing claiming to be "comrades" of Roy Moore (whose religious beliefs they don't share but fetishize as a unique aspect of European culture)?

20 posted on 02/15/2018 6:37:38 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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