Posted on 02/10/2018 4:50:57 PM PST by Ennis85
My father survived it at five years old.
He never had flu again for the rest of his life (died at almost 94).
Speaking of endangering people's lives, I've seen articles saying that errors in medical treatment is the third leading cause of death in the US. In addition to that, it appears to me that a large amount of medical care in the form of prescribed medications is aimed at treating symptoms instead of addressing the underlying causes of those symptoms.
The medical industry is programmed to dismiss those lifestyle changes, including reducing consumption of highly-processed food that is low in nutrition, as nothing more than quackery. Maybe it would be better for people to learn how to develop and maintain a healthy immune system than to get in the habit of running off to the doctor for a pill or a shot when they get sick because of a compromised immune system.
It’s the healthcare package her SEIU union crafted as we all know fault.
Secondary health issues are causing more deaths than the flu is. Heart Attacks, Sepisis, Pneumonia hit post Flu, and that does not account for those who are immune or other health issues compromised. Patients with heart, lung, Diabetes are higher risk. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/10/why-people-outside-high-risk-groups-dying-flu/326789002/
And this year the CDC got the Vaccine wrong. 18K die annually not since the Swine Flu which hit 56K. H3N2 is only 30% effective, the total mix is 10% for the failed Flu Vaccine. No accurate account of the Tamiful deaths yet.
Mandatory for Teachers, hospital workers, nursing home workers, Military, Police, Fire, government state and Fed employees, etc. No proof of vaccine, no paycheck. Any one on Medicare gets it free same for Medicaid.
Like my Type 2 Diabetic son with no health ins, no manager’s job, as the franchise owner decided to sudenly shut the doors throwing his employees out of a job. OTC THERA FLU and Tylenol. Wonder he didn’t die of a Diabetic Coma didn’t eat for 5 days lost 45 lbs. Now can’t afford his Diabetic med or test strips. A single man can’t get Medicaid. 16 yr old grandson does not know when to call grandma for medical reasons where his dad is concerned. Chewed him out royally and gave orders that he is to call me any time his dad is sick. I’ve already buried 2 of my children and sure don’t want to add a third to that list for lack of a few $$ or not being informed of an illness.
Yes, the scientific method (real competent studies) does say they might experience those side effects.
But they don’t.
I revere MDs who follow science and are experienced in treating human diseases and conditions. I seek them out and they heal and save.
But I have been disappointed by the medical community ignoring nutritional deficiencies as a cause of disease and ignoring minerals and nutrients as part of their cures and treatments.
The true way to take a therapeutic dose of D is to test and supplement and test again. Might take 6 months of 2 month dose adjustments to get it right. And some people require much more than 4000 IU a day even in sunny climes to get up to 60 in the blood levels.
I’m not a medical professional but I have seen how nutritional supplements can protect against even coming down with the flu so I feel I would be amiss not to mention it. And in flu season when no one is getting Beach degree sun onto their skin, taking 5000 IU for adult sized people is not going to cause those side effects.
My family came down with BOTH flu strains at once this year, along with strep. Yes, swabbed positive for all three at once. Got a shot of antibiotic for the strep part of that and went home and took 50K IU of vitamin D3. Within 36hrs, no more fever or aches/pains.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4463890/
“A colleague of mine and I have introduced vitamin D at doses that have achieved greater than 100 nmol/L in most of our patients for the past number of years, and we now see very few patients in our clinics with the flu or influenzalike illness. In those patients who do have influenza, we have treated them with the vitamin D hammer, as coined by my colleague. This is a 1-time 50 000 IU dose of vitamin D3 or 10 000 IU 3 times daily for 2 to 3 days. The results are dramatic, with complete resolution of symptoms in 48 to 72 hours. One-time doses of vitamin D at this level have been used safely and have never been shown to be toxic.8 We urgently need a study of this intervention. The cost of vitamin D is about a penny for 1000 IU, so this treatment costs less than a dollar.”
And where have you seen those articles? Your description sounds like the articles come from quack websites that are trying to sell "natural supplements" that don't do anything except enrich those who sell them.
In addition to that, it appears to me that a large amount of medical care in the form of prescribed medications is aimed at treating symptoms instead of addressing the underlying causes of those symptoms.
Actually, treating the symptoms is a very valid form of healthcare and saves many lives. For example, I currently oversee epilepsy research. Some forms of epilepsy result from brain damage, which causes seizures. We cannot do anything about the underlying brain damage, but we do know that if we stop the seizures, we can give the brain time to heal and perhaps avoid the development of epilepsy. Our goal is to stop the seizures--the symptom--as quickly as possible.
And so on; I could list many other examples. The entire rationale of treating symptoms (aka palliative care) is to stop the damage that the symptoms cause and allow the body to devote its regenerative resources towards recovering from the underlying condition.
The medical industry is programmed to dismiss those lifestyle changes, including reducing consumption of highly-processed food that is low in nutrition, as nothing more than quackery.
The medical industry is in the business of trying to prevent and mitigate disease. If we were truly in the business of subtly encouraging people to get sick, in the way that conspiracy theorists claim, then there would be no vaccines, no antibiotics, no efforts to teach people to eat healthy, etc. It is far more costly to send someone to the hospital with a preventable disease than it is to prevent it. Furthermore, it takes a lot of hands-on human labor to treat those people. And since we already have a shortage of providers, tying them up with providing expensive care is hardly an effective use of human resources. Plus, in that scenario, only a few people would get treatment because there simply would not be the personnel available to treat more.
Maybe it would be better for people to learn how to develop and maintain a healthy immune system than to get in the habit of running off to the doctor for a pill or a shot when they get sick because of a compromised immune system.
You either have a functional immune system or you don't. Are you getting adequate nutrition? Are you free of genetic anomalies that impair the function of your immune system? Are you older than 18 and younger than 65? If you answer yes to all of those questions, then there is not much more you can do to maintain a healthy immune system. However, pathogens do not care about how healthy your immune system is. They constantly evolve to bypass your immunity, so your best bet to prevent infectious disease is to train your immune system to recognize pathogens. There are only two ways to do that--one, by getting the disease, which can be extremely dangerous, or two, by getting a vaccine, which your immune system recognizes and responds to exactly as if it were the pathogen.
And all of those secondary health issues are a direct result of the infection with the influenza virus. I do not think most people realize just how much an influenza infection leaves one vulnerable to other issues.
The thing about the vaccine is that even if it does not protect against the exact influenza strain that is circulating, it still provides partial protection if the circulating strain is similar to the one in the vaccine. With partial protection, you can still get sick but not as sick.
Has anyone felt dizzy taking D-3? From a post a couple weeks ago on FR, I started to take 5000iu twice a day & K-2, within 2-3 days I started to feel dizzy, stopped taking them since.
What kind of K2 and how much?
Really need to ask your doc about the K2 first.
We take a formula that’s got K1, and the MK4 and MK7 versions of K2. Sometimes the MK7 bothers people. YMMV of course.
There are lists of different foods that contain K2 and how much. We love Gouda and Jarlsberg Swiss cheeses. Egg yolks have K2 as well.
K2 = 100mcg, MK4, alfalfa powder 300 mg ... Didn’t know about Jarlsberg - my favorite cheese ... was hoping to bring my calcium down in bloodstream, it was 1400(not a typo), over 10 is of concern ... so I’m a goner anyway, but I’d rather die than eat an egg ;) Thanks Black Agnes
I can afford it but $800 for a bottle of pills is absurd. If there was no other choice, I'd pay it but if a $4 bottle of baby aspirin does about the same thing, it's a no-brainer.
BTW, we have an excellent health plan but the option I chose requires the first $3,000 each year to be 100% out of pocket before the insurance kicks in. After $4,750, we are covered 100% on everything for rest of year. I save money into my HSA account to cover the out-of-pocket. Still, I'm not foolish about it. If I have to pay something out of pocket, I will.
Regarding the flu, it is said that a clove of garlic a day wards off the flu. I have at least one clove of garlic a day and will even eat it raw at the end of the day if I have to but I've never had the flu since doing that. Garlic seems to work very well. I'm now getting ready for the "going to bed with garlic on my breath" jokes.
A Johns Hopkins University study: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/03/researchers-medical-errors-now-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-united-states/?utm_term=.765ee6211a91
No doubt you discount that as some sort of quack institution though.
Actually, treating the symptoms is a very valid form of healthcare and saves many lives.
I'm completely in agreement with you on this one, when the symptoms become life-threatening. For example, extremely high blood pressure will cause fatal strokes, among other problems. However, the medical industry focuses too often just on treating the SYMPTOM of high blood pressure, instead of what is happening in the body that is CAUSING the high blood pressure in the first place.
There are plenty of other examples... cholesterol levels, insulin levels, etc.
The entire rationale of treating symptoms (aka palliative care) is to stop the damage that the symptoms cause and allow the body to devote its regenerative resources towards recovering from the underlying condition.
When the symptoms become acute, there is absolutely a need to address those problems with medical treatment. But I see too many instances where that is where the treatment plan ends. There is little to no plan for addressing WHY the systems in the body got out of whack. And if those underlying issues aren't addressed, there can BE no regeneration.
You either have a functional immune system or you don't.
Nonsense. IMO, you should read a book or two by Raymond Francis. He gets so shrill in his presentation that it seems easy to discount him as a wild-eyed kook, but his claims in his books seem to be backed up by well-sourced studies. There are a lot of ways that the immune system can be compromised. Using a statement like "getting adequate nutrition" is a LONG way from getting down to the specifics of what nutritional choices lead to either good health or poor health. Just as with the immune system, the same applies for the body's ability to keep it's blood pressure in the proper range, keep it's blood chemistry (lipids, etc) in a status to maintain good health, avoid cancer and even kill existing cancer cells. However, most of those ways to maintain good health are not things the medical industry can make money on. The industry chooses to leave it up to their patients to discover those methods on their own. At most, MDs usually limit that end of things to recommending some lifestyle changes in passing. It's understandable though. They're just like every other industry. They focus on what they do for a living.
The medical industry is in the business of trying to prevent and mitigate disease.
I don't see much evidence that prevention is a high priority, unless it takes the form of some sort of concoction that they can make money on.
Yes, that is true, but regardless, she didn’t die because she could not afford it. She decided that the benefit to her was not worth the cost. Those are decisions that we all make every day. Whether it would have helped or not can never be known. In my case, I would have tried it, but she made a different decision.
In Seniors especially per-existing heart issues of various forms are common, so are lung issues COPD and Emphysema are common. Diabetics are another group at risk. We’ve had what looked like healthy ball players drop dead of heart issues they didn’t know they had nor showed up on routine exams they have to have.
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