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Trump controls spending now? (Vanity)
Freerepublic ^ | 19 Jan 2018 | Impimp

Posted on 01/21/2018 7:03:03 PM PST by impimp

I have claimed that Trump has increased control over many aspects of spending during a government shutdown. Are my claims true? How so?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; trump; vanity; worstclickbaitever

1 posted on 01/21/2018 7:03:03 PM PST by impimp
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To: impimp

Is this an essay question? If so, how many words does it have to be, and do you want it hand written, or typed? And how much of our final grade will this count as?


2 posted on 01/21/2018 7:06:43 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: impimp

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3486530/posts


3 posted on 01/21/2018 7:07:37 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: impimp

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Seriously?


4 posted on 01/21/2018 7:08:04 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Take Covfefe Ree Zig!)
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To: impimp

Hopefully, someone will actually answer the question.


5 posted on 01/21/2018 7:10:52 PM PST by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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To: impimp
No. Congress controls all spending for discretionary funds. The President can put together a budget, but Congress approves the spending. Some things are mandatory spending, like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps. Those are defined by laws other than appropriations bills.

The President can deem certain functions necessary for public safety and facility security, and the military still does its job, and these positions will all get paid when there is a new spending bill.

6 posted on 01/21/2018 7:15:10 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

PRyno obviously lets EOs overrule his Budget Boffinism....

PRyno is a weak non-leader.


7 posted on 01/21/2018 7:24:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: impimp
Trump essentially controls spending when there is a shutdown.

Where is this written. I've not heard of it before...?

From today's Sunday Thread:

To: rodguy911

Probably because Mulvaney is OMB .... I also think he's a more effective spokesperson than Ryan.

Sean Hannity: All of the important aspects involving the government continue, and those people that are furloughed usually get their money back, because Congress will give them back pay and a free vacation.

Mick Mulvaney: Yeah, I mean...here’s how I explained it to people. I explained it this — obviously, I’m — the reason that, obviously, I’m heavily involved in this, Sean, is that the Office of Management and Budget is charged with, you know, sort of implementing running a shutdown. In fact, I found out for the first time last night that the person who technically shuts the government down is me, which is kind of cool.

60 posted on 1/21/2018, 6:20:54 AM by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP)

8 posted on 01/21/2018 7:36:23 PM PST by spokeshave (FBI = Feral Bureau of Insurrection)
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To: impimp

OK, on what have your often claims been based?


9 posted on 01/21/2018 7:46:10 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: IYAS9YAS

President Trump has all the financial power he needs for the war he is fighting from the 4 codes cited in the beginning of this

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

The Dems are concentrating on a distraction while he is playing a different game.


10 posted on 01/21/2018 7:51:30 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: impimp

It’s your claim. You prove it.


11 posted on 01/21/2018 7:53:14 PM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: impimp; pookie18
Schumer_Wally_World
12 posted on 01/21/2018 7:59:09 PM PST by FrankR (The 'Land of the Free' is inversly proportional to the 'Home of the Brave'.)
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To: mass55th

Do we have to write the question?


14 posted on 01/21/2018 8:07:18 PM PST by tiki
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To: impimp

WhatisthisIdont...


15 posted on 01/21/2018 8:09:10 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: impimp

except it’s not a government shut down. it is a temporary budget realignment. we need to change the narrative. I was hoping someone within trump would start to rebrand it. not yet tho.


16 posted on 01/21/2018 8:41:26 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: spokeshave

Go Mulvaney!


17 posted on 01/21/2018 9:16:56 PM PST by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Congress does indeed now spend the money it appropriates. However, that was not always the case. Up until 1974 the President could refuse to spend money that was appropriated.

Impoundment is an act by a President of the United States of not spending money that has been appropriated by the U.S. Congress. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to exercise the power of impoundment in 1801. The power was available to all presidents up to and including Richard Nixon, and was regarded as a power inherent to the office. The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 was passed in response to perceived abuse of the power under President Nixon. Title X of the Act removed that power, and Train v. City of New York (whose facts predate the 1974 Act, but which was argued before the U.S. Supreme Court after its passage), closed potential loopholes in the 1974 Act. The president's ability to indefinitely reject congressionally approved spending was thus removed.

18 posted on 01/21/2018 9:24:13 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: FrankR

Thanks, FrankR!


19 posted on 01/22/2018 3:43:05 AM PST by pookie18
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To: impimp
Are my claims correct? - Your claims are not correct.

How so? - They are wrong.

20 posted on 01/22/2018 4:23:35 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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