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Republicans, Democrats dig in for fight as shutdown enters second day
Reuters ^ | January 21, 2018 | Susan Cornwell, Howard Schneider

Posted on 01/21/2018 11:08:22 AM PST by mdittmar

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans and Democrats appeared to harden their positions on Sunday as both sides hunkered down for what could be a prolonged fight, with a U.S. government shutdown in its second day.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; schumershutdown
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Queen - Don't Stop Me Now (Official Video)

1 posted on 01/21/2018 11:08:22 AM PST by mdittmar
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This is the Dems’ way of trying to bring down the stock market and the economy. The best hope they have, politically.


2 posted on 01/21/2018 11:12:52 AM PST by babble-on
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To: mdittmar

Ditch the filibuster, and the matter is resolved. The GOP is fighting with itself.


3 posted on 01/21/2018 11:13:41 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: mdittmar

American citizens vs. Illegal aliens.

The battle for our Republic.


4 posted on 01/21/2018 11:14:41 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: mdittmar
DACA should be treated totally separate from the budget.

The Dems are trying to get President Trump to legitimize DACA so they can say that he agrees with the DACA stunt pulled by Obama.

5 posted on 01/21/2018 11:15:01 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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odd that the D’s would shut down their Messianic Cornucopia (government)

but.....
I’m not looking a gift ass in the mouth

Go Dem’s!
Keep it shut!
YIPEE!
and pretty soon we will ALL see that at least half of WashDC is worthless, wasteful, and/or seriously damaging to America

then we can cut out, or in some cases only cut back, all those harmful departments, agencies, bureaus, offices, divisions, and sh*tholes in “our” federal gummit


6 posted on 01/21/2018 11:16:25 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: babble-on

Dems are playing a very dangerous game. The world is a tinderbox with many potential flash points. If there is a milititary incident or confrontation somewhere during the shutdown the Dems are going to be staring at large losses in the next election.

Conflicts scare people. They want a strong military unemcumbered or weakened by political infighting. The Dems won’t have any cards to play if something suddenly happens. Just sayin...


7 posted on 01/21/2018 11:17:59 AM PST by Starboard
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To: rightwingcrazy

how is it resolved when we have Graham, Lee, Flake, Paul and ill McCain?


8 posted on 01/21/2018 11:20:51 AM PST by SoCar
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To: rightwingcrazy

The White House has to be patient a little while longer, so they don’t get portrayed as reactionary.

BUT you can be sure, as we speak, President Trump and McConnell are planning the next few days out very carefully, all with an eye to repealing the filibuster ... might not be needed, Dems might cooperate in the next few days, but more likely not.

So, give it till the end of the week, then McConnell goes nuclear - just simple majority votes from now on. No more Dem obstruction, no more Dems holding President Trump’s agenda hostage.

We got a majority, let’s freaking use it.


9 posted on 01/21/2018 11:20:55 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Starboard

The dems our counting on their union buddies to make a stink,they can keep waiting,They backed a loser.


10 posted on 01/21/2018 11:23:09 AM PST by mdittmar
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Let’s start a list of those bureaus, agencies, departments, divisions, offices, and commissions that should be shut down permanently (not refunded after the current Democrappic shut down)...

just leave them shut....

Here are a few suggestions to start the list...
IRS (replace with fair, flat, sales, or other tax that is easy to collect without 3 million Americans’ lives wasted to dealing with a complex and corrupted system)
DHS (we already have FBI and that was a highly controversial extension of federal power to begin with)
ATF (all three items are none of the government’s business to “regulate” and citizens’ rights to keep and bear F’s are constitutionally guaranteed to be “infringed”...so that the mere existence of the F part of ATF is an affront to this country...transfer all the nice employees to a legal and hopefully useful bureau)
Dept Education (none of the fed govt’s business, worthless at best and absolutely harmful or dangerous at worst)
Dept Energy (not needed, the free market can supply all the oil gas coal and etc we need)
CFPC or whatever its called, Warren’s favorite...worthless at best since it basically only rewrites the regulations of eight other agencies, also blatantly unconstitutional in its design (being statutorily unaccountable and thus even more dangerous than the average alphabet-soup agency)
EPA (scale it back to what’s really needed, some fraction of this agency probably is needed but I’d guess only 10 percent may be needed for the really significant pollutants, mostly this agency only restricts our rights while raising the cost of living for everybody)
...okay, this SHUT DOWN FOR GOOD list is now yours to augment.....


11 posted on 01/21/2018 11:27:15 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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Trump already snookered the dims.
He said yesterday
No discussion about DACA. while the government is shut down

OK dims keep it shut till March 5th.


12 posted on 01/21/2018 11:33:04 AM PST by spokeshave (FBI = Feral Bureau of Insurrection)
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Before this last flurry of CR crappola I’d read that trump asked for 3.2 bil for 2018 wall funding and that Ryan/McConnell had agreed to 1.6 bil. Any idea what’s in the house CR that got rejected?


13 posted on 01/21/2018 11:34:59 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: faithhopecharity
A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies

Let's go

14 posted on 01/21/2018 11:35:23 AM PST by mdittmar
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If I’m not mistaken, the messiah himself, barry soetero, said that all the DACA stuff was illegal. I don’t know the President personally, so I really don’t know his motives, and he has played these clowns like a fiddle.

It’s nice watching him toy with the Dem’s. They underestimated him and haven’t accepted or realized that he isn’t afraid of them.

In hindsight, he should have just let the State AGs sue, win and this would all be moot. But, then again, he’s exposing a whole host of these frauds for who they are and where their loyalties are, so that’s another plus.


15 posted on 01/21/2018 11:37:38 AM PST by qaz123
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Deport all Illegals ... ASAP!

There will be no bargaining or deals made with
people that are breaking our immigration Laws.

Go President Trump! Dig in until all SNAP Cards are Inoperative, no more Welfare checks, etc., .....
The Gravy Train has jumped the Tracks!

Make the Dems own every bit of it!


16 posted on 01/21/2018 11:42:23 AM PST by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: faithhopecharity

Government Accountability Office (GAO)


17 posted on 01/21/2018 11:43:58 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: Sacajaweau

“DACA should be treated totally separate from the budget. “

At the moment, the Dems have no leverage as they don’t have the numbers and they don’t have public support. You’d think, given their reduced circumstances, they would at least try not to commit any unforced errors. But the extremes of their party want them to go to the mat and bleed for every little thing, even though that tactic causes unforced errors. But there is so much money at stake, as far as contributions, they seem inclined to put on the Kabuki show for the politically naïve but wealthy donors.


18 posted on 01/21/2018 11:45:03 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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Trump can killed Daca today ..
Trump extended the deadline artificially and he can kill it.

It’s time to kill Dac now .

Problem solved.


19 posted on 01/21/2018 11:47:46 AM PST by ncalburt (he)
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To: spokeshave

Trump set this date and he cab now just move up to today .

Just kill .

It should never been extended .

illegal is illegal .


20 posted on 01/21/2018 11:50:13 AM PST by ncalburt (he)
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