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Ten Thoughts on the President and the ‘Sh**hole Countries’ (Dennis Prager)
National Review ^ | 01/16/2018 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 01/16/2018 11:03:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Here are ten thoughts on the president’s alleged use of the word “sh**hole” in describing Haiti, a Central American country, and African countries:

1. There are few filters between President Donald Trump’s mind and mouth. That is his appeal and his weakness. It is very common that a person’s strengths are also weaknesses. I wish Trump’s tweets and comments were as forthright — as un-PC — as they are now but stated in a sophisticated way. I also wish that cheesecake were not fattening. But just as cheesecake comes with sugar, Donald Trump comes with unsophisticated rhetoric. People are packages, not a la carte menus.

2. As a rule, a president of the United States should not label countries, let alone continents, “sh**holes.” I don’t know what word the president actually used, but had he used the word “dysfunctional” instead of “sh**hole,” that actually might have been a service to the people of many of these countries. I have been to 20 African countries. Corruption is Africa’s greatest single problem. That’s why those who truly care about Africans, many of whom are terrific people, need to honestly describe the moral state of many or most African countries. What benefit is it to honest, hardworking Africans or Latin Americans or others to deny the endemic corruption of these societies?

As Guatemalan columnist Claudia Nunez wrote on Trump in the Guatemalan newspaper Siglio 21: “The epithets he uses to describe certain groups are unfortunate and exemplify the decadence of the current political scene. But he has also said things that are true, for example, that it is we citizens of migration countries who have accommodated ourselves to the need to export people, as we have calmly allowed excessive levels of corruption to grow for decades.”

3. Though many wonderful immigrants come from the world’s worst places, there is some connection between the moral state of an immigrant’s country and the immigrant’s contribution to America. According to data from the Center for Immigration Studies, 73 percent of households headed by Central American and Mexican immigrants use one or more welfare programs, as do 51 percent of Caribbean immigrants and 48 percent of African immigrants. Contrast that with 32 percent of East Asians and 26 percent of Europeans.

4. The press’s constant description of Trump as a racist, a white supremacist, a fascist, and an anti-Semite has been a Big Lie. It is meant to hurt the president, but it mostly damages the country and the media. To cite the most often provided “evidence” for the president’s racism, the president never said or implied that the neo-Nazis at the infamous Charlottesville, Va, demonstrations were “fine people.” The “fine people” he referred to were the pro- and anti-statue removal demonstrators.

5. Why are the Left’s repeated descriptions of America as “systemically racist” not the moral equivalent of the word “sh**hole”? The Left’s descriptions of America and its white majority are at least as offensive, less true, and not made in private or semi-private conversations but in the open (in most college classes, for example).

6. The poor choice of language notwithstanding, can any countries be legitimately described as “sh**holes”? As Ben Shapiro, a Never-Trumper, wrote, “The argument that Trump is wrong to call some countries sh**holes comes down to nicety, not truth — which is why Rich Lowry of National Review took Joan Walsh of CNN to the woodshed over whether she’d rather live in Haiti or Norway.” Walsh refused to respond, giving the specious response that she hasn’t been to either country.

7. That the president allows himself to speak openly to Democrats — whose overriding ambition is to undo his election — is testament to his self-confidence, if not his hubris. And his naiveté.

8. What people say in private is neither my business nor my concern. That’s why I wrote a column in the Wall Street Journal in the 1990s defending Hillary Clinton against charges of anti-Semitism for allegedly directing expletive-filled anti-Jewish comments in private against a Jewish campaign official she felt was responsible for Bill Clinton’s lost congressional race. Former president Harry Truman’s private use of the word “kike” was also mentioned. In the Age of Non-Wisdom in which we live, many well-educated people (and, therefore, often the least wise among us) think private speech reveals all you need to know about someone. But in truth, private speech may reveal nothing about people. If everything you or I said in private were revealed to the world, we could all be made to look awful.

9. The Washington Post reports that the president also said he would be open to more immigrants from Asian countries. That would seem to invalidate the racism charge. Had he just met with the prime minister of Singapore, as he had with the prime minister of Norway, he may well have said we need more immigrants from Singapore. As the Never-Trump editors of National Review editorialized, “What he was almost certainly trying to get at, in his typically confused way, is that we’d be better off with immigrants with higher skills.”

10. The Left has lost all credibility in using the term “racist.” The University of California lists as an example of a “microaggression” the statement “There is only one race, the human race.” The left labels anyone who opposes race-based quotas, or all-black college dorms, or the Black Lives Matter movement “racist.” And it labeled President Trump’s Warsaw-speech call to preserve Western civilization a call to preserve white supremacy. On race the Left has cried wolf so often that if real wolves ever show up, few will believe it.


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1 posted on 01/16/2018 11:03:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Varney on Dow Hitting 26,000: ‘Inexplicable’ That Mainstream Media Ignores Rally!

Fox Insider News ^ | January 16, 2018 | Staff
Posted on 1/16/2018, 9:37:02 AM by yoe

The Dow Jones Industrial Average crossed the 26,000 point milestone at the opening bell on Tuesday.

The Dow made the latest 1,000 point milestone move in a record-setting seven sessions, breaking the previous record of moving 1,000 points in 23 sessions. That record was set when the Dow moved from 24,000 to 25,000.

“Investors smell profit, more and more from American corporations. And that’s the bedrock for stock prices,” Stuart Varney said on “Fox & Friends.”

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.foxnews.com ..
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3622949/posts


2 posted on 01/16/2018 11:05:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (America had regime change 20 Jan 2017! ISIS collapsed! Are Iran/Our media, the DNC/FBI/DOJ/CIA next?)
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To: SeekAndFind; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

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3 posted on 01/16/2018 11:08:28 AM PST by bitt (We donÂ’t need an electric chair, we need electric bleachers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

NO ILLEGALS should get ANY WELFARE....PERIOD!!!! STOP THE MADNESS!!!


4 posted on 01/16/2018 11:08:34 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hmmm. How many holes does it take to a flush a quadrillion+ sheets of derivative A$$paper, anyhow?


5 posted on 01/16/2018 11:08:57 AM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Well, I’m glad that the Dow his an all time high, but what does that have to do with SH**THOLE countries, other than most do not even have a functioning stock market?


6 posted on 01/16/2018 11:09:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I have two thoughts:

1. Since the only apparent source is Dick Durbin, a well known liar, I doubt that Trump actually said it.

2. If they are not sh!thole countries, then why are people so desperate to flee them?


7 posted on 01/16/2018 11:09:26 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That offhand remark has really got the nation doing some deep thinking. Good. Move past the ‘not very nice’ factor, and think about what Mr. Trump means by it. Most real Sh*tHole cities do not want you to examine what it really means, so they try to cover the phrase with racist overtones.


8 posted on 01/16/2018 11:09:29 AM PST by lee martell
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To: SeekAndFind
The press’s constant description of Trump as a racist, a white supremacist, a fascist, and an anti-Semite has been a Big Lie. It is meant to hurt the president, but it mostly damages the country and the media. To cite the most often provided “evidence” for the president’s racism, the president never said or implied that the neo-Nazis at the infamous Charlottesville, Va, demonstrations were “fine people.” The “fine people” he referred to were the pro- and anti-statue removal demonstrators.

How strange to hear a member of the media speak the truth...

9 posted on 01/16/2018 11:11:30 AM PST by GOPJ (The press is fed by the FBI & CIA - YOUR tax dollars at work - propping up establishment democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The press’s constant description of Trump as a racist, a white supremacist, a fascist, and an anti-Semite has been a Big Lie.

It is meant to hurt the president, but it mostly damages the country and the media. To cite the most often provided “evidence” for the president’s racism, the president never said or implied that the neo-Nazis at the infamous Charlottesville, Va, demonstrations were “fine people.” The “fine people” he referred to were the pro- and anti-statue removal demonstrators.

How strange to hear a member of the media speak the truth...

10 posted on 01/16/2018 11:12:36 AM PST by GOPJ (The press is fed by the FBI & CIA - YOUR tax dollars at work - propping up establishment democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I want Trump to strike back, but wish he’d do it by shaming them.. making their remarks childish. What they have been doing is very childish... spending this much time on one word that all of them use is so childish, I turn off every Fox person who talks on that one word.

Trump should use what Rush said today about durbin and the fiasco. Answer the charge with how ridiculous and elementary they are to spend time on that when the stock market hit another high today ... they are like school kids .... do whatever they don’t want to be linked to.
Don’t just deny it or call them names.. keep his adult attitude but bring them down to ‘childish’ behavior.


11 posted on 01/16/2018 11:15:21 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: Ann Archy
>>NO ILLEGALS should get ANY WELFARE....PERIOD!!!! STOP THE MADNESS!!!

“Those people are here illegally. They are ignorant and uneducated. The deserve to be taken advantage of”
—Manager of Application Support, Argent Mortgage
—Circa May, 2007

Interesting how folks didn’t seem to have any moral issues with that “madness”.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/business/complaint.pdf?mcubz=3

Especially given the lack of criminal prosecutions for the related FRAUD.

12 posted on 01/16/2018 11:16:14 AM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I heard a clip where the DHS secretary testfied to the judiciary committee, in answer to a question from lil dickie his own self, that there was so much profanity being thrown around in that room that she really isn’t sure who said what particular word.


13 posted on 01/16/2018 11:19:09 AM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it is but it do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“2. As a rule, a president of the United States should not label countries, let alone continents, “sh**holes.” I don’t know what word the president actually used, but had he used the word “dysfunctional” instead of “sh**hole,” that actually might have been a service to the people of many of these countries.”

No thanks, $hit hole is the proper description to utilize, and in the case of Haiti, it’s completely accurate because even in their “capitol city,” they don’t have a sewer system. But rather a series of “$hit holes” into which their bodily wastes flow, to be bailed out by “public servants” utilizing buckets after everyone goes to bed each night.


14 posted on 01/16/2018 11:26:00 AM PST by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind

You have to love Dennis’s clarity of thought. I feel like the day isn’t complete when I don’t get to hear at least a little of his show. He nails it.


15 posted on 01/16/2018 11:26:36 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind
2. As a rule, a president of the United States should not label countries, let alone continents, “sh**holes.”

In public, certainly. But the President said it in a PRIVATE meeting, if he indeed said it at all. Lindsay Graham used similar language to describe Mexico and other third world nations ("hellholes") in a PUBLIC forum, yet received no criticism for it. So as usual, President Trump is held to a different standard than any other pubic official, including past Presidents.

16 posted on 01/16/2018 11:30:18 AM PST by Mr. Mojo (There are two types of people in this world -- those with loaded guns, and those who dig.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

So many conservative spoke persons talk about it as if it’s a given that it is true.


17 posted on 01/16/2018 11:34:30 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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Who cares?


18 posted on 01/16/2018 11:35:34 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: SeekAndFind
"On race the Left has cried wolf so often that if real wolves ever show up, few will believe it."

The real wolves are already here...


19 posted on 01/16/2018 11:35:46 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Bubba_Leroy

It was little Dickie boy mad that Trump wouldn’t accept his and Ashley Wilke’s “bipartisan” immigration bill...Dickie boy felt sandbagged so he got even with his lie...Democrats suck.


20 posted on 01/16/2018 11:40:49 AM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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