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No, Forcing Jews To Bake Swastika Cakes Is Not Like Forcing Homophobes To Bake Gay Cakes
The Forward ^ | Jenny Singer | December 8, 2017

Posted on 12/08/2017 10:57:09 AM PST by nickcarraway

New Year’s resolutions: get outdoors more often, read more books, and stop hanging out with people who only bring up the Holocaust as a way to illustrate unrelated arguments and never to talk about the systematic murder of six million Jews.

This week the editorial board of the Chicago Tribune published an editorial, “Wedding Cakes And Conscience,” contending that a baker in Colorado being forced to design a wedding cake for a gay couple would constitute a violation of his freedom of expression. To illustrate the point, the Tribune encouraged readers to understand Colorado baker Jack Phillips’ predicament, saying, “imagine a Jewish baker being required to put a swastika on a cake.”

Read more: https://forward.com/schmooze/389592/no-forcing-jews-to-bake-swastika-cakes-is-not-like-forcing-homophobes-to-ba/

The newspaper rounded off the article about why the gay couple should stop “forcing a baker to swallow his objections” by pointing out that the cake situation is not the same as Black Americans being turned away from businesses during the Jim Crow area, since the issue there was just that a lot of the time Black people needed to use the bathroom, which is a “basic bodily function.” You know, that thing that happens after you eat a cake with a swastika on it.

Freedom of expression really is an amazing thing. In only one article, a newspaper managed to take anti-Semitism out of context to make a point about how gay people should be grateful and stop complaining, while saying that the Black civil rights movement was mostly propelled by the need to use the bathroom.

Is there a journalism award for insulting three minority groups at once? If so, nominate the Tribune.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: backward; bakethecake; forward; gaymirage; homosexualagenda; jeanvaljenny; jewishdailybackward; masterpiececakeshop; phillips; ssm; supremecourt; swastikas
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To: Olog-hai

The fact that anti-Semites point this out doesn’t change the fact that the state of Israel, among other authorities, recognizes the Jewish ethnicity independent of religious belief or practice.


101 posted on 12/08/2017 2:38:33 PM PST by Tax-chick (I want to go to Colombia!)
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To: Tax-chick

True, and it’s not related to it, although the antisemites try to de-legitimize Israel on that false basis as well as others.


102 posted on 12/08/2017 2:39:51 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I think the concept of anti-Semitism itself is more associated with “Jewish” as an ethnicity rather than a religious belief. If a person hates Christians, he doesn’t continue to hate a person who has abandoned Christianity and professed atheism. However, an anti-Semite does not care what the Jewish person believes.


103 posted on 12/08/2017 2:53:53 PM PST by Tax-chick (I want to go to Colombia!)
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To: Albion Wilde

I am fairly certain the author knows about the anal part of analysis.


104 posted on 12/08/2017 3:36:16 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: No.6

Who?


105 posted on 12/08/2017 3:43:13 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: kaehurowing
Record is pretty clear he didn’t make gay wedding cakes for anyone.

He made wedding cakes for a lot of people. That was his business.

Nor would he make cakes for anything else that violated his beliefs (e.g., Halloween cakes), cakes with denigrating or negative messages.

Halloween aficionados are not a protected class.

106 posted on 12/08/2017 4:09:39 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Skywise
And yet Wisconsin found the ruling unconstitutional agreeeing that the hate crime law violated the black teens rights.

And the Supreme Court overturned the Wisconsin Supreme Court. But before it could have gotten to any court the defendant had to be arrested and charged with the crime.

107 posted on 12/08/2017 4:11:33 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

At the time of the Colorado charge (by an unelected “civil rights” board) same sex marriages were not recognized by the state of Colorado. Why should a baker or photographer have to participate in an unofficial pretend marriage ceremony?


108 posted on 12/08/2017 4:13:24 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

>> If you refuse to bake a cake for a Nazi, you aren’t discriminating against a person with protected status under the law.

Auntiefaaaahs called for violent beatdowns (vigilante attacks on persons they hate) and were quite willing to accept that some white men and women who would be assault might not actually be racist/NAZIs but that it was all good.

No civil rights violations there?


109 posted on 12/08/2017 4:16:37 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Tax-chick

That’s how things are bearing themselves out.

There is also another tactic of the ethnic antisemites who try to convince the religious antisemites, that being the false claim that the Jews who went to the state of Israel are actually not ethnic Jews but Khazars. The real Khazars were a Turkic people who inhabited the Caucasus and built an empire that stretched into modern-day Ukraine and southeastern parts of Russia.


110 posted on 12/08/2017 4:25:09 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: a fool in paradise

Why didn’t the faggots sue the State of Colorado?


111 posted on 12/08/2017 4:26:19 PM PST by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Olog-hai
the Jews who went to the state of Israel are actually not ethnic Jews but Khazars.

That's just bats. I'm familiar with the Khazars: they weren't ethnically Semites at all, but an unrelated nation that adopted the Jewish faith.

112 posted on 12/08/2017 4:32:35 PM PST by Tax-chick (I want to go to Colombia!)
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To: nickcarraway

It can’t be the same because there is no such thing as a “homophobe.” That is a made-up word invented by the Left to force their agenda on everyone.


113 posted on 12/08/2017 5:10:17 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Tax-chick
Arthur Koestler (1905-1983), a Hungarian Jew, later a naturalized British subject, best known for his novel Darkness at Noon, popularized the notion that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from the Khazars in his book The Thirteenth Tribe. So far DNA testing has found no evidence of Khazar ancestry among Ashkenazi Jews (rather, they are most closely related to Sephardic Jews and to Middle Eastern Jews).
114 posted on 12/08/2017 5:29:16 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Olog-hai; Tax-chick
Marx, and apostate Protestant, did have Jewish ancestors, but he is the father of antisemitism in Leftism.

His seminal essay, On the Jewish Question outlins how antisemitism is going to be backed into his philosophies:

What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist

And henceforth, leftism/communism wasn't good for Jews.

Chief Rabbi of Moscow Jacob Maze said, "The Trotsky's make the revolution, the Bronsteins pay the bills." (The was a reference to Leon Trotsky, whose family name was Bronstein)

115 posted on 12/08/2017 5:29:56 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Verginius Rufus
So far DNA testing has found no evidence of Khazar ancestry among Ashkenazi Jews ...

Not a surprise.

Being wrong about this does not make Mr. Koestler wrong about everything.

116 posted on 12/08/2017 5:31:09 PM PST by Tax-chick (I want to go to Colombia!)
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To: Olog-hai

The point, however, is that marriage is inarguably a choice. Thus, even IF orientation is immutable, the Jewish baker comparison is still valid. Whether or not you choose to be homosexual, you CHOOSE to get married, just as you CHOOSE being a Nazi.

Therefore, you can no more force a Christian baker to participate and proclaim a gay marriage than you can force a Jewish baker to proclaim Naziism.


117 posted on 12/08/2017 5:58:23 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: nickcarraway

Muslims are just being used by leftists. When they are finished with them, the Muslims will be treated just like the Christians. Leftism is the religion that is a threat.


In Iran, the Ayatollah worked with leftists to overthrow the Shaw. Then the Ayatollah’s government killed off the leftists.


118 posted on 12/08/2017 6:00:56 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: NetAddicted; nickcarraway

Wow, that news got buried pretty successfully.

Zero ‘suggested’ we could have an American genocide and directly compared Trump with Adolf yesterday in a CBS news interview. There are several sources; your favorite search will turn them up.


119 posted on 12/08/2017 6:55:39 PM PST by No.6
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To: TBP

OK then; this is about trying to argue logic with Satan. The pro-sodomite-marriage types did not achieve their aims with logic, but with force. The left-wingers on the Supreme Court are of that anti-logic pro-force mindset. Therefore, force is the only thing they respect and force is what they think correct to use their way in all situations.


120 posted on 12/08/2017 6:57:10 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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