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Israel and Saudi Arabia: What's shaping the covert 'alliance'
BBC ^ | 24/11/2017 | Jonathan Marcus

Posted on 11/23/2017 6:08:07 PM PST by Postman Pat

To all intents and purposes, Saudi Arabia and Israel are de facto allies in the struggle against Iran's rising influence in the region. It's a developing, but highly sensitive relationship, but every so often there is a hint of what may be going on beneath the surface.

Last week Israel's Chief of Staff, General Gadi Eisenkot, said in an interview with UK-based Saudi newspaper Elaph, that Israel was ready to exchange intelligence with the Saudis in order to confront Iran.

"There are shared interests and as far as the Iranian axis is concerned we are in full accord with the Saudis," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; israelsaudiarabia; northkorea; saudiarabia; saudiarabiaisrael
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You know it's true when the mainstream media finally stop ignoring it.

Look, I get it, Israel views Iran as the bigger threat, so it's playing "my enemy's enemy is my friend", I understand that, Middle-Eastern politics is a dirty game.

I understand why Israel does what it does. I do not for the life of me understand why the United States and the rest of the western world feels the need to follow suit.

Iran poses no threat to the US of the West. The Sunni maniacs of Saudi Arabia pose a huge threat. It was not the Iranians who flew jet airliners into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, it was "our good friends the Saudis". That was an act of war by Saudi Arabia and yet the US kisses their ass, what do the Saudis need to do to the US for Americans to get mad at them?

It is not Hezbollah who are cutting off heads, driving trucks into holiday makers and blowing up little girls at pop concerts, it is ISIS, the Sunni terrorists created and funded by Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states and yet these are the friends and allies of the US while Iran is the great pariah.

Iran is not the threat folks, Israel might not like Iran but the Israelis are big boys and with their Saudi friends they can deal with it as they see fit.

There is no logical reason on God's green Earth why the US should be siding with head-chopping, desert dwelling, Sunni barbarians in Saudi Arabia.

1 posted on 11/23/2017 6:08:07 PM PST by Postman Pat
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To: Postman Pat

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2 posted on 11/23/2017 6:11:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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“It is not Hezbollah who are cutting off heads, driving trucks into holiday makers and blowing up little girls at pop concerts,”

Actually, they are. They’re just doing it in Israel.

L


3 posted on 11/23/2017 6:13:42 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Postman Pat

The Gigantic City Project Called NEOM: Saudi Arabia Might Recognize Israel Because of NEOM Project
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3599676/posts


4 posted on 11/23/2017 6:17:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Lurker

I stated from the outset that Israel doesn’t like Hezbollah, and Israel will do what it sees fit, the point is that the US and the rest of the West is not Israel.

Israel does not get (or at least shouldn’t get) to dictate US foreign policy in its interests and against the interests of the US. I speak as a great admirer of Israel, just for the record.

The US would not allow the UK or France or Australia to decide US foreign policy, Israel should not get different treatment.

(Just for the record can you point to me the Hezbollah bomb attacks on Israeli pop concerts or Hezbollah truck attacks? For my reference).


5 posted on 11/23/2017 6:34:19 PM PST by Postman Pat
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Hamas and Hezbollah are responsible for numerous bombings of civilians in Israel. Maybe not a concert, but they’ve blown pizza joints full of school kids, run down soldiers and civilians, and conducted knife attacks.

All civilized societies should condemn these savages without hesitation and help to exterminate them.

Hezbollah was also largely responsible for the attack on the US Marine barracks in Beirut. They should be killed by any civilized person wherever they’re found on general principle.

L


6 posted on 11/23/2017 6:45:57 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Postman Pat

You should follow Thomas Wictor on Twitter.


7 posted on 11/23/2017 7:07:47 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Postman Pat

Both are and have been big threats. We need to have talks with the Saudi in charge.


8 posted on 11/23/2017 7:08:25 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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‘There is no logical reason on God’s green Earth why the US should be siding with head-chopping, desert dwelling, Sunni barbarians in Saudi Arabia. ’

There was. OIL. Thank God for fracking.


9 posted on 11/23/2017 7:11:50 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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Iran should get the next noble peace prize - they’ve done what an entire generation of western “leaders could not. They are getting the Arabs and Israelis to work together. ... only half joking.


10 posted on 11/23/2017 7:15:25 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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The propaganda being spread, the #FakeNews being spread is at times laughable including the notion that ISIS was created by the Iranians who have been fighting IS and all the other Osama Bin Laden sympathizer jihadists imported into Syria’s civil war funded by Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc. etc. etc.

President Trump has said that Iran is non-compliant with the nuclear deal and thrown it into the lap of Congress.

Will they stop doing business with Iran if Iran is so evil and specifically will Boeing be stopped from selling 100 aircraft to Iran and will Airbus being stopped from selling 80 more planes to that country?

As far as I know those deals are on because they create jobs and are good for business.

I got a laugh when Netanyahu said the other week the Iran deal needs to be modified not scrapped.

The deal with its lifting of sanctions means busine$$ deals with the Iranians.

Israel buys and leases planes from Boeing too and El Al cut a new deal with them in the last year.


11 posted on 11/23/2017 7:34:12 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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‘What’s shaping?.

A mutual appreciation for taste of human flesh?


12 posted on 11/23/2017 7:59:16 PM PST by CharleysPride (End the Mandate. Thank you President Trump, Sens Cruz and Rand!)
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To: Postman Pat; SaveFerris; Lera

Convergence of Biblical End Times events is what is pushing this. Ezekiel 38:13 lays out a last days war between Iran, Turkey, Russia (now aligned militarily for the first time in history) and Israel. Saudi Arabia, described as “Sheba & Dedan” offers a protest to these actions. It’s all about to happen soon. Sure there might be some Arab attempt at preservation against Sunni Iran, but at the end of the day - the Lord’s will be done. Iran, Russia, and Turkey will cease to exist after this war. For what it’s worth, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq really don’t exist anymore as nations.

IN POSSIBLE NOD TO ISRAEL, TWO TOP SAUDI OFFICIALS VISIT PARIS SYNAGOGUE

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/In-possible-nod-to-Israel-top-Saudi-officials-visit-Paris-synagogue-515001


13 posted on 11/23/2017 8:09:00 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (21st Century American Culture = Not worth preserving)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

You hit the nail on the head. And our anti-semitic Freepers need to be reminded that they will be judged by how they treated Israel. Maranatha.


14 posted on 11/23/2017 8:24:12 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03; Roman_War_Criminal

There is nothing anti-semitic about pointing out that the US and Israel are separate countries.

Allies certainly but not Siamese twins. Let Israel look after Israel’s business and let the US look after its own, they are not necessarily the same thing.

As for basing foreign policy on what ludicrous interpretation someone on the internet does of an obscure Biblical text, well, forgive me but I believe the adults should be in charge of these matters.


15 posted on 11/23/2017 8:38:27 PM PST by Postman Pat
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To: Lurker

You appear to be confusing the Iranian-founded Hezbollah militia, who mainly operate in Lebanon, with Palestinian terrorists based in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip.

They are not the same thing.


16 posted on 11/23/2017 8:40:44 PM PST by Postman Pat
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“They are not the same thing.”

A distinction without a difference.

L


17 posted on 11/23/2017 8:45:25 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Lurker

To you maybe, but in the context of the discussion there is a huge difference.

That’s like saying there is no difference between ISIS and Hamas, you might regard them as just being Muslim terrorists, all the same, whereas in actual fact there is a world of difference between them, and these differences matter when it comes to how US foreign policy is currently being directed.


18 posted on 11/23/2017 10:06:06 PM PST by Postman Pat
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To: Postman Pat

Israel is no amateur at warfare or the Intelligence game but I have serious questions about Saudi Arabia! How be it the desire is a good place to start but it’s not going to be cut & dry nor short term or cheap.


19 posted on 11/23/2017 11:15:02 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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...There is no logical reason on God's green Earth why the US should be siding with head-chopping, desert dwelling, Sunni barbarians in Saudi Arabia...

The news I read says that right this minute some of the Sunni barbarians who financed the 9-11 attacks are being hanged up-side down and tortured (hopefully in their dark and secret places) under the auspices of the new government in Saudi Arabia.

Exactly who is doing the hanging and torturing is not readily apparent, but it couldn't be happening to a better bunch of guys. Maybe it is Americans, maybe it is people from somewhere else. It is very apparent that the instigators are the new government of SA.

If the new government keeps this up, their radical subjects may even learn not to attack the US and Israel. This is as logical a reason as I can imagine.

20 posted on 11/24/2017 1:22:46 AM PST by CurlyDave
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