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Arctic climate change being felt farther south, scientists say
CBC News ^ | November 20, 2017 | The Canadian Press

Posted on 11/20/2017 11:44:02 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

An international summary of five year's worth of research on Arctic climate change concludes the top of the world is getting warmer faster than anyone thought.

And if it all sounds interesting but a little far removed from southern concerns, David Barber has news for you.

"There are very clear linkages there and they've been occurring consistently for the last 10, 15 years," said Barber, one of Canada's top ice scientists and a prominent contributor to the report.

"Most people don't understand how bad it is."

Climate change in the Arctic is well underway and can't be stopped. But the report says if nations meet their greenhouse gas reduction targets under the Paris agreement, changes in the Arctic will stabilize to a new normal some time around 2040.

"We should have started 20 years ago," Barber said. "We didn't get our act together and we're still dicking around trying to figure out how to price carbon.

"These things are costing us. And they're costing the stability of our planet."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakescience; globalwarming; hoax; ice; socialism
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1 posted on 11/20/2017 11:44:02 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Now if we figure out how to remove 90+ volcanoes from the continent, we’ll be alright.


2 posted on 11/20/2017 11:45:46 AM PST by submarinerswife (Allahu FUBAR)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I can’t wait until I can plant pineapples in Minnesota......................


3 posted on 11/20/2017 11:47:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the top of the world is getting warmer, then what is really happening is temperatures are equalizing north to south.

This isn’t a bad thing.


4 posted on 11/20/2017 11:47:50 AM PST by marron
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They have nothing else to demagogue to this extent, so they can’t let go.

Young mush for brains fools, buy into this stuff.

What else could the Left loft that would have this kind of impact.

The Left: Keep saying it until people believe it.


5 posted on 11/20/2017 11:47:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell / Ryan: Why pass Cons legislation when we can pass Leftist legislation for Leftists?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More Doom & Gloom and it is all total BS!!!


6 posted on 11/20/2017 11:48:59 AM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet (Stand for the flag, kneel for the cross))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
An international summary of five year's worth of research on Arctic climate change concludes the top of the world is getting warmer faster than anyone thought.

Again?!!! Hell at the rate the predictors and modeling have been underestimating how hot it is in the Arctic, all the ice will have been melted there for 5 years, come this time next year!

7 posted on 11/20/2017 11:49:52 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being rich or stupid!)
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To: submarinerswife
WOW! A five year study vs the millions of years of earth history and how many cooling/warming cycles. Seems like a few (/s) of those had ZERO human input. Weird huh ? Hey AGW proponents, we got your number----🖕🏻
8 posted on 11/20/2017 11:50:18 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
***WARNING***

CBS = Complete Bull Sh#t

Don’t believe these Lying Leftist Media outlets that proved themselves during the 2016 campaign to be operatives of the DNC and intentional liars. They are presumed to be lying and we should presume what they publish is a lie. The presumption can only be rebutted with the outlet providing clear and convincing evidence they are not lying.

This is ONLY about repeating the lie of man-made weather and the excuse for global totalitarian government, brought to you by the Delusional Lying Left.

The psychological state of the Delusional The Lying Left:


9 posted on 11/20/2017 11:50:38 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is an “ice scientist” a scientist whose brain has been frozen?

Yup, thought so. :-)


10 posted on 11/20/2017 11:51:57 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Red Badger
I can’t wait until I can plant pineapples in Minnesota......................

According to these fanatics, you should have some very mature palm trees and Mango groves growing in you back yard today. Obviously, you don't know how to grow them in your tropical climate.

11 posted on 11/20/2017 11:52:12 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being rich or stupid!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Perhaps I’m just being selfish, but I usually don’t play golf here in SC in February because it is too cold for me and if global warming allows me to play golf here 12 months out of the year and not have to wear long pants then I’m fine with that. And, because of the global warming excesses I chose not to break the first sentence into more than one and say the same thing.


12 posted on 11/20/2017 11:55:11 AM PST by Purdue77 (Okay, I'm too cheap to afford a tag line.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m a scientist and I’m OK.
I sleep all night and spelunk all day.

I climb icebergs and I skip and jump,
I eat my lunch then put on my pumps.
I make sure I don’t wake the seals
It makes it hard to walk in heels.

I’m a scientist and I’m OK.
I sleep all night and spelunk all day


13 posted on 11/20/2017 11:55:53 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder
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If you travel east of Tallahassee on I-10, you can see the dead remnants of citrus groves from earlier in the 20th Century. Citrus used to be grown even in southern Georgia.

Now, citrus trees can hardly survive north of Orlando without special care. I have tangerines, lemon and orange trees but must keep them close to the house or covered in winter...............


14 posted on 11/20/2017 11:56:04 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’d think Canadians in particular would welcome some warmer weather. It’s not as if all this hasn’t happened before. It’s just that short-lived humans reckon time very differently than the Earth does. With every ice melt there is evidence of old forests and other indications that in the geologic past Arctic regions were much warmer than now.


15 posted on 11/20/2017 11:56:12 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If they were really serious they’d stop wasting time on the US and go after the real polluters.

China, India, Russia.

Ain’t gonna happen because none of them will pay the extortion money.


16 posted on 11/20/2017 11:56:54 AM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey playoffs season!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“one of Canada’s top ice scientists”

Based upon what? Grant funding? Networking his way into publishing in higher profile journals? What? “Top scientists” are those who hypothesize, test their hypotheses, don’t over-interpret their data, and contribute new knowledge to their fields. Most of these ‘climate scientists’ are not doing things that would advance our understanding of what determines climate, and why it is dynamic. They make measurements that any of us could make if we had access to global climate stations, and then they extrapolate from this data - seemingly too often tweaking data points in order to get the answer they want.

Most do not hypothesize alternative contributors to atmospheric heat retention other than carbon dioxide. They seem more interested in finding new ways to ‘prove’ their assumptions - not disprove their own hypotheses. That’s not science. That is self-promoting careerism.


17 posted on 11/20/2017 11:57:20 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Purdue77

lol


18 posted on 11/20/2017 11:58:12 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
We didn't get our act together and we're still dicking around trying to figure out how to price carbon.

Is this ice scientist jargon? I'm impressed!

19 posted on 11/20/2017 12:01:40 PM PST by Know et al ( Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yeah, we are having the polar vortex today.


20 posted on 11/20/2017 12:02:53 PM PST by brianr10
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