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WY: Off Duty Warden Shoots, Kills, Charging Grizzly
Ammoland ^ | 9 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/11/2017 3:29:21 AM PST by marktwain

Grizzly Bear

An off duty Wyoming Game Warden, Chris Queen, was hunting elk in the Little Sunlight Basin north of Cody, Wyoming, not far from the Wyoming border.

He was returning to his horses late in the day, about 6:30 in the evening. The sun had set 15 minutes earlier, but there was still considerable light.  A grizzly sow bluff charged Chris, then charged him full out.

From ktvh.com:

Queen told investigators he slowly backed away believing the sow would return to her cubs and move on.

But, after returning to her cubs, the sow exhibited even more aggressive behavior.

Suddenly, the animal lowered its head and fully charged.

Queen said he fired his rifle at the charging grizzly, killing it just a few feet from where he stood.

Because Chris is an Game and Fish employee, the Game and Fish department asked the sheriff's office and the Division of Criminal Investigation to step in, to prevent even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
From parkcountysheriff.net:

It is not unusual for an agency with concurrent jurisdiction, to be asked to assume investigative responsibility for an incident when a member of a law enforcement agency with primary jurisdiction is involved,” said Steward. “This maintains the integrity of the investigation and eliminates even the perception of impropriety,”

The off duty Game Warden, Chris Queen appears to be following the best available advise.  Tom Smith, Professor at BYU, one of the most quoted proponents of bear spray, said as much  in a Sports Afield article in 2012. He said that it would be foolish to drop a rifle to attempt to obtain pepper spray, while being charged.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: banglist; bear; bearattack; grizzly; wildlife; wy
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To: riverrunner

...Modern day bear apologists tend to forget history that bears are dangerous to man...

And all the way back to prehistory...


21 posted on 11/11/2017 5:28:14 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: Travis McGee

I read the instructions on a bear spray container for sale at Walmart. It said that the spray “can” be effective as a bear deterrent. When in bear country, if you carry a handgun it’s best to have one with a 4 somewhere in the caliber.


22 posted on 11/11/2017 5:35:27 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: rlmorel

Stupid bear’s destiny was to become somebody’s nice fireplace rug.

And the cubs? Well, veal is young cow, lamb is young sheep, do you see where I’m going?

;^)


23 posted on 11/11/2017 5:42:11 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: riverrunner

Most of our modern day apologists of all types never knew the history in the first place.


24 posted on 11/11/2017 5:43:38 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Sasparilla

Anyone want to venture a guess where the bears hide ended up?


25 posted on 11/11/2017 5:45:42 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: marktwain

He should have called the police instead!


26 posted on 11/11/2017 5:49:11 AM PST by Savage Beast (TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE THE RESISTANCE !!! VIVE LA RESISTANCE!)
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To: elcid1970; marktwain

You might misunderstand my post...I was referring to the link in marktwain’s post about the guy and girl who got eaten by bears.

I am 100% for using guns on grizzlies.


27 posted on 11/11/2017 5:49:13 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Savage Beast

Show him your badge!


28 posted on 11/11/2017 5:51:37 AM PST by Clay Moore (MAGA)
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To: Sasparilla

The “4” may not be as important as you think:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/10/where-are-bear-attack-pistol-failures.html


29 posted on 11/11/2017 5:55:57 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

“Todd Wilkinson is an American author and journalist proudly trained in the old school tradition of asking hard questions and pressing for honest answers.”

But he don’t know Jack about bears.


30 posted on 11/11/2017 5:57:43 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: DaveA37; All

Anyone want to venture a guess where the bears hide ended up?


Eaten by scavengers, very likely the cubs.

Bears are not choosey when needing to put on fat for the winter’s hybernation.

It was a long way out in the back of beyond, and the hide was likely spoiled by the time the investigation was finished.

The cubs were probably still in the neighborhood. It is almost time to den up.


31 posted on 11/11/2017 5:59:15 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: rlmorel

Uh...I don’t recall questioning the wisdom of preferring high powered guns as the best form of bear medicine.

Real question, though: how effective is bear spray on humans? Because I hear it’s illegal to use oven spray or wasp spray in place of pepper spray.


32 posted on 11/11/2017 6:05:10 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Dr. Sivana

They go on to make a Disney movie about the perils of growing up without a mother to teach them the ways of the wild.


33 posted on 11/11/2017 6:06:31 AM PST by Rebelbase (There are only two genders. The rest are mental disorders.)
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To: grey_whiskers

ROTFLMAO, thank you, excellent!


34 posted on 11/11/2017 6:32:21 AM PST by miniTAX
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To: Vigilanteman

Bear lives matter


35 posted on 11/11/2017 7:12:18 AM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: marktwain

Archer Fred Bear, in going after dangerous game with a bow, carried a .44 mag pistol hidden under his jacket. For his films, he had a rifleman standing off screen, just in case.


36 posted on 11/11/2017 7:13:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain
Because Chris is an Game and Fish employee, the Game and Fish department asked the sheriff's office and the Division of Criminal Investigation to step in, to prevent even the appearance of a conflict of interest.

Would that no agency of the government, at any level, investigate itself or its employees.

37 posted on 11/11/2017 7:15:25 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: MCF; DainBramage
“Jackson Hole attorney Deidre Bainbridge DainBramage, a wildlife advocate,...

Any relation of yours Dain?

38 posted on 11/11/2017 7:18:44 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: politicianslie

“But bear spray MIGHT BE 90% effective in stopping a bear attack.”

A gun may only be 50% effective. My understanding is their CNS must be completely destroyed to get them to instantly keel over. I’ve read where they will run an additional 100 yards or worse yet kill the shooter after their heart was blown out.

My opinion is to shoot first, spray later if it keeps on coming. At least you can reassure yourself you tried everything while being mauled to death.


39 posted on 11/11/2017 7:20:38 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: marktwain
"Queen said he fired his rifle at the charging grizzly, killing it just a few feet from where he stood."

When in doubt, empty the...belt.


40 posted on 11/11/2017 7:26:45 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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