Posted on 11/08/2017 10:50:51 AM PST by Mariner
Republican leaders seeking to overhaul the federal tax code faced new challenges Wednesday, including a new $74 billion hole in the House’s plan and a drubbing in Tuesday’s state and local elections that will be on members’ minds as they prepare for difficult tax votes.
Democrats won gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia on Tuesday and also stood on the cusp of winning control of the Virginia House of Delegates — a setback that many are calling a wake-up call to the GOP.
But top Republican tax writers split Wednesday over whether that would make it harder for them to advance their tax bill.
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) said the losses could shape the tax bill going forward.
“I mean, it could, because the elections went against the Republicans,” Hatch said in a brief morning interview.
Asked whether he is feeling pressure to tilt the tax plan’s benefits more toward the middle class, Hatch said, “I think we’ve been moving that way anyway.”
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The initial version of the House tax bill delivered only 21 percent of its benefits to individuals, including the middle class, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation. Four-fifths of the bill’s aggregate tax cut benefited corporations and business owners with family earnings of more than $260,000 a year, as well as wealthy individuals who would no longer be subject to the federal estate tax.
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Well boo hoo and waahhh! This is idiotic. They should have already handled it and ObamaCare, immigration and and and . . . STUPID LOSERS!!
Exactly what changed that would jeopardize passage of the tax cuts?
Those were state and local elections, in areas where democrats were expected to win, which they did. Nothing else changed nationally. the U.S. senate and house remain firmly in control of republicans, and so is the presidency, as well as SCOTUS. Democrats “winning” in blue states is not the same as momentum towards changing anything nationally. Heck, even the one race for a U.S. congressman, was won by a republican.
So, why are republicans running scared? Methinks that some of them are looking for excuses to not pass tax cuts.
If a Senator’s political convictions can turn on a dime as a result of purely in-state elections in just two states - you’re RINO. He’s looking for an excuse.
LOL
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To kick RINO butt!
The republican majority Senate is a sham. No serious legislation has had a chance with the mcshame,grahamnesty cabal torpedoing every senate vote. Mccain already stated the same death for tax reform by him and senate rinos as the Obamacare attempts before it. Till these duds are ejected then the senate is a democrat majority as it has been all year.
Orrin thinks we are dumb enough to accept this as an excuse for them to not even try to push through tax reform....
Even though the current bills are actually going to increase taxes overall for most of us peasants Take things out of different pockets to put into theirs. .
Ya know... I'm starting to not like these Uniparty Republicans elitist liars.
A third party will be composed of politicians. they will be offered lifetime wealth and copious funding for re-election campaigns if they play the PC game. They will cave at the same rate as the Republicans cave. That is somewhere above 80%. At this stage of the Oligarchy one party or two parties or three or a hundred and sixteen makes no difference.
I call BS. Their only hope for survival is tax reform and the resulting economic growth. All the growth in the last years has been on the hope that Trump and the GOP would deliver economic growth from deregulation and tax cutting. If businesses see Republicans reneging on tax cuts, they will pull back on their investing and hunker down for more Obama no/slow growth. Then what will you have to run on, RINO’s?
“So, why are republicans running scared? Methinks that some of them are looking for excuses to not pass tax cuts.”
Whether you are a Republican or Democrat Congressman or Senator, you have one goal, and one goal only: Nullify the 2016 Presidential Election. Nothing else matter except retain the government oligarchy’s control over society. Everything...their massively growing wealth, power and lifetime position for their families...depends upon nullifying the election. Everything the Republicans and Democrats have done thus far has been in pursuit of that one goal. It is only when their own incumbents start falling like flies that anything can change.
Democrat states, democrat wins. No surprises here, just excuses.
Excuses. GOP is full of them.
What we are seeing now, and I think Trump saw this a few years ago, is a systemic failure of our very form of government.
Conservatives must be about reminding blue state voters it’s time to take a good look at how much their local taxes are and where that money is going to wasteful practices and social engineering. Pointing out why write offs hide this at the expense of the red states which keep their houses in order and can no longer afford this ,
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
I’m inclined to believe what another Freeper has suggested about actual Republican RINO support for healthcare repeal and tax reduction bills.
More specifically, regardless of RINOs who claim to want to overhaul tax code for example, politically correct, yes-voting RINOs are actually probably supporting no-voting Sen. McCain who has seemingly been single-handedly killing Trump’s MAGA-supporting legislation.
In fact, consider that since federal House RINOs have more to lose in 2018 elections by not passing Obamacare repeal and tax reduction bills, that House votes yes on legislation only to pass "hot potato" bills to no-voting senators whose jobs are more secure because of six year terms.
Corrections, insights welcome.
Next, patriots are reminded that they need to finish the job that they started in the 2016 elections by electing Pres. Trump.
More specifically, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of state sovereignty-respecting, Trump-supporting candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to D.C. on election day.
Oh, here we go. The GOP has a new fund raising bait. Send your money in; you must get us elected or there won’t be any tax reform. Yeah, I trust you, Hatch.
Good one!
> could complicate tax reform
How complicated is it to say “We tried really hard but didn’t get it done this year. but elect us in 2018 and we’ll do it in 2019”?
That’s been the plan all along and it isn’t any more complicated today than yesterday.
Maybe some representatives now realize that they should to do something this year and that makes it harder for the “leaders” to push them (not us) off until 2019. It’s still not complicated to say “we aren’t doing it”. McCain is more than happy to lead that “NO effort” if McConnell is too much of a wimp to stand up to his members and tell them it’s not going to happen.
I wish I could add /sarc. Will /sad do?
I was also wondering since when do two liberal governor-elects have a vote on tax bills in the U.S. House and Senate?
Guys and gals,
I hate to sound like an Eeyore, because I am not trying to sound like an Eeyore.
Trump’s win was a first step to drain the swamp.
There are still RINOs and GOP-e clowns who hate us.
2018 will have to be a repeat of Trump’s win—but of course we’ll have to do it in the Senate and House.
Defeat RINOs, yes...and defeat DEMON RATS in states won by Trump.
Trump cannot be expected to carry the weight all by himself. He is doing a hell of a good job, but legislation is key.
So let’s defeat the Republican state Demon Rats *and* the RINOs like Heller, etc.
It’ll look a whole lot brighter the last two years of Trump’s first term if we go full blown MAGA on the Senate/House in 2018.
Patience.
Draining the swamp takes time. One election cycle at a time.
We are in a war for our Republic. If we give up at Valley Forge when things look like they’re lost (1777) we won’t have victory at Yorktown (1781). These things take time.
As the fake news anchor Dan Rather would say, “Courage.”
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