somewhere, PukinDog is laughing...
Posted on 10/16/2017 7:03:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
...The risk that the services would be stuck with less-than-capable aircraft is one that the Pentagon knowingly took when leaders decided to overlap the development and testing of the program with the production...
Sounds to me like this was a calculated risk the Pentagon took. Now I am certain that they had a lot of help from Lockheed along the way, but they knew the risk.
I also know that a lot of information is classified and we do not know the whole story on this.
Old saying...
“You never have money to do it right, but you always have money to do it again”
We need look no further than the Pentagon to find the corruption. Many Generals, Colonels and Civilian DOD employees belong in jail.
“Somebody made a ton of money on the buying/selling us useless crap like this that doesn’t work”
Read it again. The MILITARY chose to order the planes before the design work was done to ‘speed things up’. And it is the MILITARY that is choosing not to upgrade. The contractor is just doing what they are told to do.
Nice reply. Carrying 4 current weapons systems would still make it a powerful platform and at that probably still way more than needed for the typical mission.
Sukhoi_30mki also gives us a nice reply on putting the financial aspects in proper perspective.
Combined replies tell me the article is inaccurate and deliberately misleading. Or just click bait.
“Well speaking as someone who spent many years as a DoD contractor, I’ll take the Daily Beast On this one. “
Well speaking as someone who has spent and is still spending many years as a DoD contractor and who has talked to pilots who have flown the plane, I will side with the pilots who loved it over some journalist hit piece.
Even the title is a steaming pile of BS. “Can’t Fight” instead of the truth which is ‘can only carry a smaller variety of weapons’.
somewhere, PukinDog is laughing...
The USAF can upgrade these aircraft.
Oh, and the Block 2B CAN fight, though it is not as effective as the 3C.
This article is hyperbolic as hell.
... contractor is just doing what they are told to do...
As stated before, somebody made a ton of money selling useless equipment to the military. That’s an undeniable fact.
The F-35 can carry exactly 2 bombs and 2 missiles in it's internal bay. Anything else goes outside and makes it unstealthy.
Only the Air Force variant has an internal gun with just 182 rounds of ammo. Other variants can carry an external gun which is unstealthy.
It's a turkey.
Believe it or not the Iranians scored several kills using their AIM-54’s. That said the Phoenix was primarily designed to kill bombers — essentially a non-maneuvering target.
Conned out of our currency.
Yeah, as I recall, the C-5A was built in 2-3 years too (around that same time). I don’t know what to tell you. Generally, the more software intensive a weapons system is, the longer it take to develop. And most functions get pushed to software.
There hasn't even been verification (outside questionable Iranian sources) that they were able to make the Phoenix work again after US technicians sabotaged them during the revolution.
Iranians were able to use the powerful radar in the F-14 though with the Sparrows they had and the Iraqi air force learned to run when they detected that radar signature.
I guess I’ve been misinformed,but I thought we had committees in Congress that knew what they were doing in regards to the military. Looks like they are still low on the learning curve.
The F4 is still my favorite - and can probably still put up a good fight.
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Yup.. love that big old beast.. and could it belch smoke and flames.. OH Helll Yeaaahhh!!!
Spineless Generals and corrupt Senators (primarily) and US Representatives do this kind of stuff to get themselves re-elected and buy a few votes generation after generation.
The whole acquisition system is corrupt to the core, right down to toilet seats and always has been.
“As stated before, somebody made a ton of money selling useless equipment to the military. That’s an undeniable fact.”
False. Most of the money was spent building the equipment, so it wasn’t ‘made’ (gross versus net). And the equipment isn’t ‘useless’ unless you believe leftist hit piece BS.
I had to brief committees in closed-door meetings regarding our nuclear forces and capabilities. The politicians' ignorance was astounding.
http://warisboring.com/108-u-s-f-35s-wont-be-combat-capable/?mc_cid=bae0e73cd3&mc_eid=eff0fc44f7
The Daily Beast article was mostly sourced from this.
Lots of hard data if you take a look.
Essentially at least 10% of the F-35 program will become just very expensive trainers.
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